Devil's Knot Page #7
(CLEARS THROAT)
Your Honor, I think they
are going to try to cross-examine him
from the Oceanside police report,
and we submit that it's irrelevant.
My understanding was that
this young man retracted his statement.
We want to question Mr. Morgan to suggest
that the police case was far from certain.
Why would his testimony be relevant?
FORD:
Your Honor, we all want to questionwitnesses that the police viewed as suspects
before narrowing their focus on the accused.
I'm not gonna allow you to
drag in every possible suspect
unless you've got something that tie those
persons to some event in this case.
Judge Burnett, don't you think
a confession suffices as a tie-in?
Your Honor, they could just talk to anybody
on the street and they could say,
-"Do you admit doing these murders?"
- Come on!
This is not just anybody off the street.
This was the Oceanside PD
questioning him at the request
of the West Memphis PD.
All right. All right.
I'm gonna begin the hearing. Anything else?
Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to need
to conduct a hearing in camera so
- I'm gonna ask you...
- What?
...to go back to the jury room.
JUDGE:
Bailiff,will you clear the courtroom, please?
FORD:
Your Honor...All right, folks.
All spectators, members of the press,
please leave the courtroom.
You, too, Mr. Lax.
I don't believe you're an officer of the court.
Mr. Morgan, please step
forward to be sworn in.
PAM:
Why are theyquestioning Chris Morgan?
And why aren't we allowed
to hear what he says?
Bobby DeAngelo asked for a picture of my
son and brought Chris Morgan into my home.
I have a right to hear what he says.
Yes, you do, Mrs. Hobbs. We all do.
FORD:
On May 17th, 1993, wereyou questioned in Oceanside, California...
CHRIS:
Yes.FORD:
And in a videotaped statement...WOMAN:
We are going to be all right.Justice is gonna be sewed, and we love you,
and we are just thinking of you and just
praying for you constantly, okay?
(WOMAN TALKING INDISTINCTLY)
So you said it just to get out?
Yeah, after 17 hours I believe anybody would.
Now, before you made
the statements in question,
did you tell the officers in a state of anger that
"if you want me to lie to you,
I'll lie to you and tell you that I did it"?
- Yes.
- Uh-huh.
And immediately after that,
did you again deny any knowledge
-of involvement in these murders?
- Yes.
All right. Anything else?
Jessie Misskelley denied that he did it,
admitted he did it, then denied it again
and he's in prison!
This man did the same thing.
And we are asking you to allow
us to present this testimony to the...
No.
We are entitled to raise reasonable doubt.
That's what we're trying to do
with this testimony.
Raise it or create it?
FORD:
Both!FORD:
Burnett wouldn't let him testify.GLORI:
it was so importantto get that kid on the stand
-to show how arbitrary it's been.
- I know.
But the judge says that's not relevant
because Morgan told the cops
he was gonna lie.
Besides, Fogleman says there's
no tape for the part
-of the interview where Morgan confesses.
- What? No, that's bullshit.
You can't see part of the tape
because Morgan put a tissue across the lens.
I saw it. I watched the whole thing.
But you can see it when he confesses.
PRICE:
Yeah, but Fogleman said...The audio's there for all of it, even when the
lens is covered. You tell them that?
You guys even watch the
entire six hours of tape?
- We have a synopsis from the Oceanside PD.
- A synopsis?
Since when do we depend on police reports?
Ron, we did not have enough time or money.
But you should have told Burnett...
I should have told him what?
Now, you want to try these cases, Ron?
Maybe you should have gone to law school.
You let us do our job
I'm... I'm sorry, Ron. But we...
We are overwhelmed.
Fogleman is burying us in materials.
13,000 documents from the
police investigation alone.
We don't have enough time.
We don't have enough manpower. Money.
And frankly? Burnett?
He's just not giving us a chance.
PAM'. That's all right, you
That's all right, Mama
Just anyway you do
That's all right
That's all right
Well, that's all right, Mama
That's all right with you
Anyway you do
Anyway you do
That's all right
MAN ON TV:
And what a challenge that wasto persevere...
Jason, the prosecutor's
office wants to offer you a deal.
If you agree to testify against Damien,
they'll only seek a sentence of 20 years.
Not death.
Now, you could be out
in 10 years, maybe less.
That's still a long time, though.
In 10 years you'll be what? 26 years old?
You'll have your whole life ahead of you.
The case against you is weak.
But they're going to do everything they can
to tie you to Damien and his beliefs,
the things he said and done.
And despite the lack
of evidence, it is very possible
that Damien will go down for this.
And if he does,
there's a good chance he's
gonna drag you down with him.
I can't do it. I can't tell a lie about him.
It ain't right.
I can't.
When you were at the softball field,
did you hear somebody say
something about the murders?
Yes, sir. I heard, um, Damien Echols
say that he killed the three boys.
say he killed all three of those little boys.
And before he turned himself in,
he was gonna kill two more.
And he already had one of them picked out.
Is the person who made that
statement present in this courtroom?
Yes, sir.
Would you point that person out for the jury?
Right there.
May the record reflect that the witness
has identified Damien Echols.
If anybody else is in this courtroom, who was
present when that statement was made,
would you point that person out for the jury?
Your Honor, may the record reflect
the witness has identified
the other defendant,
Jason Baldwin.
KING:
Sir, are you all right?After that I called the police.
And by the time Officer Meek came to the
drive-through, the man was already gone.
And the next day, uh, after
the bodies were found, and, uh,
Detective Ridge and Allen came
over and took a report.
They came over straight from the crime scene,
and one of them asked me, he said,
"Did the black man appear
to have muddy feet?
"Like me, because we've been out there all
morning long in the water and mud."
PRICE:
Okay. And when youlooked at him, what did you say?
Um, I said, "Yes, sir."
'Cause his pants and shoes
were muddy and wet up to the knees.
"Just like you."
PRICE:
Detective Ridge, on May 6th, 1993,you went to the Bojangles Restaurant.
Did you take blood scrapings
from inside the women's restroom?
Yes, sir. I found trace remains in the
ladies' bathroom of the Bojangles.
PRICE:
Detective, what is the date you sentthe scrapings to the crime lab to be analyzed?
They were never sent.
All right. Where are the
samples at this time, Detective?
I don't know, sir. They were lost.
PAM:
What?PRICE:
You mean blood evidence
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