Good Ol' Freda Page #7
if you didn't get the facts right,
you were in her bad books,
and I wouldn't like to be
in Freda's bad books.
I think that Freda's
motto in life
was "I'll be nice to you,
but don't cross me.
I'll not deal with you,
in fact, if you're
trying to tell
lies about my boys. "
I was quite
nervous around Freda,
'cos to me she
was like an idol.
I was about 14, there was
three of us worked together,
oh it was just
absolutely an amazing
thing to do at the time,
you know,
to think that one of The Beatles
could possibly walk in,
it was just... oh,
I just can't explain it
now.
It was amazing at the time.
They would put photographs
in envelopes
and they would
open certain letters,
for me to answer,
and I would really
frank in the mail,
and this particular day,
one of the envelopes
that I put through
the franking machine
was a bit bulky,
so I opened it,
and when I opened it,
there was hair fell out,
and the girls were
still in the office,
and I just said,
"What's going on here?"
She was absolutely livid.
I mean,
being the innocent party,
I didn't know
nothing about it,
and then my friend Lorraine,
she owned up and said it was her.
It materialized that she'd cut
her sister's hair
and put her sister's
hair in the envelope
and pretended it was
going to be Paul's,
and I just said,
"Well, I just can't trust you after this. "
I still remember thinking,
"I've done nothing wrong,
it wasn't my fault!"
I just done a clean sweep,
didn't just sack the girl that done it,
I said, "That's it, sorry.
Can't trust you anymore. "
That was the only
time I've been sacked.
Wouldn't wanna live that day again,
that's for sure.
It was horrible... awful day.
The thing about Freda
is that if she found out
that somebody was telling lies
about somebody,
it'd just be "Come here you,"
in front of everybody
and she would castigate them
right down the banks,
and so she's a bit judgmental,
if you like, but so? That's Freda.
The bottom line was,
I had to run a tight ship...
I had to answer to Apple
and to The Beatles,
and if anything went wrong,
it was my head
that went on
the chopping block,
nobody else's.
It was August 1965,
and The Beatles were playing on The Empire,
and The Moody Blues were also
on the bill, with them.
I had popped in
to see the lads,
I just opened
the door slightly
and their band room
was just full of relations,
so I thought, "Oh,
I'm never going to get in here,"
so, I was involved
with one of The Moodys at the time,
so I went into their dressing room,
which was next door,
that was just them and they had
alcohol and drinks,
so I decided to
stay there for a drink,
but probably I stayed a bit longer
than I shoulda done,
and then I realized
that I had to get autographs signed
and photographs signed,
so anyway,
I came back, knocked on the door,
and I just walked in.
And as I walked in,
John said to me, "Where have you been?"
And I said,
"Oh, I've been next door,
I've been in
the Moodys' dressing room,"
and he went, "Whose fan club
secretary are you?"
and I went "What are
you talking about?"
I said, "I'm your
fan club secretary,"
and he went "Not anymore. "
He said, "You might as well
go back to The Moodys
and be their fan
club secretary,"
and I said "What are you talking about?"
and he went "You're sacked. "
And then I looked
at the other three,
so I said,
"Are you sacking me as well?"
and they went,
"No, we're not sacking you. "
So I got on my
high horse then,
probably because of the drink,
and I looked at him and I said,
"Well, I'll just work for the other three;
I won't do your mail anymore. "
He said "Oh, I was only joking,"
I went, "No you weren't,"
and he went
"Oh, I'm begging you, come back!"
and I said, "Well, I'll tell you what,
get down on your two knees
and beg me to come back,
you dumped me. "
He said, "If I get down
on one knee?"
and I said, "Go on then,
get down on one knee,"
and he did, and I said, "Oh, all right,
I'll come back to you. "
There has been quite a degree
of loss in her lifetime
which not many
people have gone through,
so, obviously, her mother dying
when she was very young,
my brother dying,
then my mum and dad getting divorced...
A lot of people have gone under
for less, and she hasn't.
She's a strong character,
and she's come out fighting every time.
Over a period of time, people have said
"Oh, why don't you do a book?"
or "You know,
you should do a book,"
and my son did ask me
... Timothy did ask me...
to do a few things,
and I just...
it was because I never talked about
The Beatles, or my past,
and then something would
come on the television
and it would jog my memory,
and I would say, "Oh, I went to that,"
or, "Oh, I remember
the civic reception,"
or "I remember this,"
and Timothy used to say,
"But mum,
you never talk about it,"
and I said, "Timothy, I haven't
got time to talk about it.
I'm more
interested in going to shops
and thinking what
to put on the table
tonight for dinner,
not to sit down
and talk to you
about The Beatles. "
And he just shook
it off, and then,
when my grandson
came along, I thought
"Well,
I didn't do it for Timothy,"
and then Timothy passed away
a few years ago,
and then when Nial came along,
I thought, "Well,
I'm definitely going to do it now. "
Shh, I can hear
the birdies singing,
yeah,
can you hear them singing?
You know, because one of these days,
he might just look at me
in the corner with
the shawl and the grey
hair and a cat
sitting on me knee,
and probably think,
"Oh, you know,
she never done anything,
or... "
I would like him
to be proud of me
and see how
exciting my life was
in the '60s,
and the fun I had.
If I hadn't 'a done it now
... and this is the truth...
If I hadn't 'a done it now,
I know I wouldn't ever have done it.
She could always say tomorrow,
tomorrow,
and she'll never sit
down and sort it out.
When Nial was born,
things definitely changed,
and I think that when anybody
has a child in that respect,
it does open a lot
of doors for people
and changes their position
in life in general,
and you can suddenly reinvent
yourself to a degree,
because Timothy
isn't around now,
and you don't know
what tomorrow brings.
When they came
back from America,
Brian Epstein decided then
that we had to move to London,
and you did, because in those days
everything happened in London,
wasn't happening up north.
We were planning on where
we were going to live
and what we were gonna do,
and what clubs we would visit,
and we were just...
all the excitement and the adrenaline
was, ooh, we're going to the big city,
the capital city.
So I went home and said,
"Oh, well, I'm going to London,
the fam's going to London,
and I'm going
to London with
the fam and everything,"
and I'm all bubbly,
and me father,
he just sat in the chair
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