Good Ol' Freda Page #9
like a guy dressed up
as a bit of a clown,
and he had a spotty,
funny-type suit,
and I thought
"What's going on?"
and then this man... I didn't know him,
I found out his name then,
it was called Ivor Cutler...
and he come over to me
and he just said to me,
"You've got a nice-shaped head. "
We all eventually got on the bus,
and I dived for the back,
I thought, "Well, I'll go
on the back seat,
and, you know, you're not really
seen on the back seat,"
and then Paul
eventually got on the bus,
and he sat by the driver,
and then he called my name,
and he went,
"Freda, where are you?"
and I went,
"I'm here, I'm on the back,"
and he went,
"Can you come up the front?"
and I went, "Do I have to?"
and he went, "Come up the front. "
I thought, "Well, he's getting severe
here now, do as you're told. "
You couldn't book the hotels
in The Beatles' names
because they
wouldn't have you,
so you always had to book them
under false names,
and Neil was doing
some of the hotels,
and I said to him, "Why don't you book it
in the Women's Institute
or the Catholic Women's League
or something like that?"
and he went,
"Oh, that's a good idea,"
so I had to go up
to the counter in the hotel
and say, "Hello,
you've got a reservation
in the name of
the Women's Institute,"
and then they went, "Oh fine,"
I said, "Well, we're just come in now. "
The shock on
people's faces when we all
trooped in...
because it was The Beatles,
it was people dressed weird...
it was a very mixed bunch,
very odd bunch,
and I was one of them.
But where, I think,
Paul was decided to do it there and then
was 'cos it was so quickly
after Brian Epstein's death.
He thought it might hold us all together,
or hold them all together,
but I don't think it worked.
That's just my opinion.
You know, you don't wanna
think about that,
you can be big-headed,
and say,
"Yeah,
we're gonna last ten years,"
but as soon as you've
said that, you think
"We're lucky if we
last three months. "
Well obviously, we can't keep playing
the same sort of music
until we're about 40.
When I as at 40, we
may not know how to
write songs anymore.
I hope to have enough money
to go into a business of my own
by the time we do flop.
a ladies' hairdresser.
I string them, in fact, and strut 'round
in me stripes and me tails,
you know,
"Like a cup of tea, madam?"
The Beatles stopped touring in
roughly 1966, I think,
then Brian
Epstein died in '67, and
Magical Mystery
Tour was in '67,
and Apple had started by then.
In the beginning,
it was great:
the fun and the madness
and all different nationalities
in the press office.
People didn't
act as if they were
working in
an office or a business,
and then it became more settled down,
more normal,
and there wasn't as much fun.
I loved
the beginning part of it,
'cos it was fun
in the beginning,
and it was fun for them,
they enjoyed it so much.
Every group wants to be in the charts,
or wants a hit record, or...
Everything was exciting in the beginning:
they got a number one,
and then they
were asked to appear
on the Royal
Command Performance,
and they saw the queen,
and they were a hit in America,
and the civic reception,
and it was all these landmarks,
and... where does it stop?
You can't keep carrying on
like that, can you?
Towards the end of the '60s,
it wasn't what The Beatles were doing
as a group anymore,
it was what they
were doing individually.
I know Paul's was... he was
bringing out his own LP,
John and Yoko were doing
the peace movement,
and George was
doing things, I think
with Clapton,
I can't remember,
Ritchie had two sons by then,
and he was more interested
in, sort of, a family life.
And then the penny was
dropping with me,
that we aren't gonna be Beatles
as a group anymore.
Are you still the Beatles' fan
club secretary? How's business?
Fine, except for the post day.
They don't have
a group anymore.
Well they've still got four members,
haven't they?
I don't like to lie,
but it was trying to bend the truth,
when people were asking you questions
about what was going on,
you had to more or
less say, "Well yes,
The Beatles are
still together,
and everything's great,"
but it wasn't great.
And now,
what's the arrangement today?
Well last August,
Paul rang me up
and said he didn't want people
to be writing about him as a Beatle,
which I was doing, and he wanted to split
this word, Beatles, up.
They are four individual people now,
recording and everything,
and we'll write all
about Apple artists,
the four Beatles
'cos Paul is
still an Apple artist.
Is the atmosphere today
anything like it was ten years ago?
No, no.
What's missing?
The closeness.
It was all fun when we were teenagers,
but your life changes,
and my life had changed,
I was then 27, I mean,
I was married now,
had a baby son,
and I wanted more children,
and I was, we'll say,
concentrating on that.
I then found out
I was pregnant.
I'd been trying
to get pregnant for a while;
I desperately
wanted this baby,
and I just wanted to make sure
that everything was gonna be all right,
so that was more important
to me than my job,
was my married life, my son,
and the baby on the way,
and then that's when I thought,
"Well, I'm out here. "
I went to London,
had a discussion
with Neil Aspinall,
the head of Apple,
who was their road manager
in the beginning,
and George and
Ritchie were there;
it was just... that was all,
I remember we were 'round a table.
I told them that I was pregnant,
and they said,
"Well, do you think you would
be going back to work?"
and I said, "I won't be
going back to work,
you know,
I'll have two children then. "
And then George
finally spoke up
and said,
"Freda, you were there in the beginning,
you're there at the end,
let's call it a day.
Let's end the fan club. "
You're still
involved in the fan club?
Well, I'm sorta
trying to wind it up.
This is what I wrote:
"Well, this is it.
John, Paul, George,
and Ringo have each
and they are no
longer collectively
an item.
There it is. Eleven years.
Eleven years in which
we have become a very strong,
happy,
There will not be
another official fan club
for The Beatles as
individual artists.
Please do not write again.
Yours faithfully,
Freda Kelly. "
I haven't read that
since it went out.
I actually felt
quite sad, reading it.
With me being
a Beatle fan myself,
I just knew that
this is going to
break a lot of
girls' hearts, so I musta
put a lot of
lights out for people.
Well, the lights
went out, didn't they?
At the back of
all this, I am still
...or was... am
still a Beatle fan,
so I do think
the way they think.
We were still getting
I took them all home with me,
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