Jodorowsky's Dune Page #2

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you see a pirate...

robbing a convoy of spice, by example.

Battles. And you go, you go...

Is a long shot.

We need to find the person

who will make the special effects.

"I say, " Moebius, we fly

to California, to Los Angeles...

to the appointment

of Douglas Trumbull."

He was a very honored,

very important person.

He receive me. He was interesting.

Was a business.

We went to see Trumbull...

but he gives himself so big importance.

We was speaking, he answered...

40 times the telephone.

Forty times.

He was speaking

with so big vanity of himself.

He was a big technician.

But for me, was not a spiritual person.

He have nothing to do in the creation

of a film who was a prophet.

He will make a technical film, no?

And then I say,

"I cannot work with you."

And we went out.

Moebius was astonished, say,

"How you can say no to the biggest...

technician of Hollywood?"

I say, "it is like that."

I cannot use him.

He is not my spiritual warrior.

And then we was walking in the street,

Hollywood...

there was a little cinema, a little theater.

And there was a science-fiction picture...

Dark Star.

And when I see the picture,

"That is the guy!"

O'Bannon.

We will search for this person.

This person will be the person.

For me, the art was before,

later the technique.

And that was O'Bannon.

And then he came to Paris.

And that was... I have two warriors:

Moebius and O'Bannon.

I need to find the others.

The first actor is the father,

the Duke Leto.

David Carradine had starred

in a very popular television series...

in which he was a warrior...

who was taught by masters

from the Orient.

It was influenced by El Topo.

Then, when Carradine knew

that I wanted him, he came...

he came running.

I waited for him in Los Angeles,

in a hotel room.

I had bought vitamin E.

Like, this E vitamin. Half a kilo.

In order to take one pill every day

to have the strength.

Carradine came to my room,

the first thing he saw...

was the pot of E vitamin.

He say, "Oh, E vitamin!"

And he drink all my pills of vitamin E!

Like is a monstrosity! Sixty dollars was!

Well, was a big beginning.

And then I say,

"We need to work together!

You are the person I am searching!"

I wanted a musical group

for every planet.

Pink Floyd.

They will make the music of Leto.

Pink Floyd have a record,

Dark Side of the Moon.

For me, that is the human being,

like the moon.

One side is brilliant, light.

And the other side who is black,

the unconscious...

what is mysterious, what is deep.

It happened during a meeting.

"Pink Floyd?"

Gibon said, "Okay, I'll go!"

He called Pink Floyd's agent.

He said, "Could I meet with you?"

So one day we went to London.

They were in the middle of finishing

the mixing...

of Dark Side of the Moon,

at Abbey Road, the famous studio.

And I remember, we got there...

and they were very standoffish...

pop stars, very distant.

They was eating. They was eating...

hamburgers.

Four guys eating hamburgers.

"Hello," they say, "Hello!"

And nothing, I could not speak,

they was eating.

All of a sudden, Jodo...

We called him Jodo.

Jodo said,

"No. They're pissing me off. Let's go!"

I start to insulted them.

"How you don't understand

I offer to you..."

the most important picture

in the history of the humanity!

We will change the world!

And you are eating...

"Eating Big Macs. How?"

And then they stop

and they speak with me.

And after that, it went very, very well.

Very, very well, yeah.

And we was speaking to make

a big album with the music of Dune.

Could be fantastic, no?

In my version, the Duke Leto...

he is castrated.

And then how he will do a son?

And then his wife...

a marvelous woman, a wise woman...

and the guy have a love, a cosmic love

when he see this woman.

And how he will make a child?

And she take a drop of his blood...

and she change the blood into semen...

and then we see the drop of blood

going inside the vagina, the uterus...

and we will follow the blood...

the blood coming and go inside

the ovum and explodes there.

She get pregnant with a drop of blood.

That's What I did.

What will have if you are not

the son of a sexual pleasure...

but of a spiritual pleasure?

And from this spiritual love,

he will create Paul.

Paul was a young boy...

but is not a normal boy. Was a mutant.

With a big soul and strength.

Where I will find that boy?

My son.

Today you are 7 years old.

Now you are a man.

Bury your first toy and

your mother's picture.

I work with him in El Topo,

now he have 12 year old.

I say, "You will make Paul,

but you need to prepare as a warrior."

I prepare my son, to do the role exactly...

as the Duke Leto prepare his son.

I find teacher for him.

I have a very strong person...

Jean-Pierre Vignau.

When we started, he was 12.

There I trained him in karate,

karate jujitsu, Japanese style.

That's all the fist-foot techniques...

joint locks, floor

pins, standing pins...

a combination of karate,

judo, aikido and atemi-jitsu.

He learned how to fight with his hands,

with knife, with swords.

He learn all that.

And he was ready to do Paul

as a real "Paul."

I trained Brontis six hours a day,

seven days a week for two years.

And all the person say to me,

"But what you did?"

But why you are trying

to change the mind...

of child and to make

a superior person?"

I say, "No, I was only

awakening the creativity."

I opened his mind.

That's what I was doing.

I don't know if I changed his life.

Now I am thinking, "Why I did that?"

Sacrifice my son.

But in that time, I say, if I need to out

my arms in order to make that picture...

I will cut my arms. I will do it.

I was believing that to make a picture...

who will give a mutation

to the young minds...

was sacred.

You need to sacrifice yourself.

I was even ready to die doing that.

For me, science fiction

was like a huge theater...

like a huge work of art.

Every spaceship was a being...

like an insect, like a fabulous bird.

That was the spaceship I wanted.

Foss, I knew him in the covers

of science-fiction books.

They were ships with souls, like beings.

It had to be Chris Foss.

You are excrement.

You can change yourself into gold.

In that time, I was like a prophet,

I was enlightened.

And I gave to them the feeling

they are not only making a picture.

They are making something important

for humanity.

They have a mission. They was warriors.

I was searching for...

For the light of genius in every person...

with an enormous respect,

an enormous respect.

And then, every day

I was feeding them in order to...

To be free, to do the best of them.

Every morning, I give a big speech...

like the person who make

football or rugby...

a speech with the players:

Every morning, I make my speech.

In order to say,

"Do it, what you need to do...

really, because this will be important."

In that time,

I was seducing Dali...

because I wanted Dali

as the mad emperor of the galaxy.

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