Zizek!
What would be my...
how should I call it,
spontaneous attitude
towards the universe?
It's a very dark one.
The first thesis would have been
a kind of total vanity:
There is nothing, basically.
I mean it quite literally,
like... ultimately...
there are just some fragments,
some vanishing things.
If you look at the universe,
it's one big void.
But then how do things emerge?
Here, I feel a kind
of spontaneous affinity
with quantum physics,
where, you know,
the idea there
is that universe is a void,
but a kind of a positively
charged void.
And then particular things
appear
when the balance of the void
is disturbed.
And I like this idea
of spontaneous very much
that the fact that it's
just not nothing...
Things are out there.
It means something
went terribly wrong...
that what we call creation
is a kind of a cosmic imbalance,
cosmic catastrophe,
that things exist by mistake.
And I'm even ready
to go to the end
and to claim that the only way
to counteract it
is to assume the mistake
and go to the end.
And we have a name for this.
It's called love.
Isn't love precisely this kind
of a cosmic imbalance?
I was always disgusted
with this notion
of "I love the world,"
universal love.
I don't like the world.
I don't know how...
Basically, I'm somewhere
in between "I hate the world"
or "I'm indifferent towards it."
But the whole of reality,
it's just it.
It's stupid. It is out there.
I don't care about it.
Love, for me,
is an extremely violent act.
Love is not "I love you all."
Love means I pick out something,
and it's, again,
this structure of imbalance.
Even if this something
is just a small detail...
a fragile individual person...
I say "I love you
more than anything else."
In this quite formal sense,
love is evil.
They inform me
they play chess. I like that.
Think about the strangeness
of today's situation.
we were still debating
about what the future will be:
Communist, Fascist,
capitalist, whatever.
Today, nobody even
debates these issues.
We all silently accept
global capitalism is here to stay.
On the other hand,
we are obsessed
with cosmic catastrophes:
The whole life on Earth
disintegrating
because of some virus,
because of an asteroid
hitting the Earth, and so on.
So the paradox is that
it's much easier to imagine
the end of all life on Earth
than a much more modest
radical change in capitalism,
which means that we should
reinvent Utopia,
but in what sense?
There are two false
meanings of Utopia.
One is this old notion
of imagining an ideal society,
which we know will never
be realized.
The other is the capitalist Utopia
in the sense of new
perverse desires
that you are not only allowed
but even solicited to realize.
The true Utopia is when
the situation is so without issue,
without a way to resolve it
within the coordinates
of the possible,
that out of the pure
urge of survival
you have to invent a new space.
Utopia is not kind of
a free imagination.
Utopia is a matter
of innermost urgency.
You are forced to imagine it
as the only way out,
and this is what we need today.
I hope I wasn't too long.
I thank you very much
for your patience.
Another very short comment
that I can make.
You know why I applauded?
If you watch old
documentary movies,
you will see a big difference
between a Fascist
and a Stalinist leader.
The Fascist leader,
when he is applauded,
he just accepts it.
The Stalinist leader
applauds himself.
The message being
"It's not at me.
I'm just your tool. We are all
just serving history."
And this was my side.
So we are on. Okay.
The worst thing is to play
this "We are all humans" game
that some intellectuals
like to play.
You project a certain
intellectual persona...
cold thinker, whatever...
but then you signal,
through small details,
"You know, but nonetheless,
I'm basically like you.
I like small pleasures of life.
I'm human like you.
I'm not human.
I'm a monster, I claim.
It's not that I have a mask
of a theoretician,
and beneath,
I'm a warm, human person.
I like chocolate cake,
I like this, I like that,
which makes me human.
I'd rather prefer myself
as somebody who,
not to offend others,
pretends... plays
that he's human.
You come in?
I hid it, of course.
It means "Welcome to welfare,"
to socialist wealth.
A good, honest guy.
I put everything here...
I love this... so that...
By everything, I mean...
Look even here it is.
You see?
Isn't it a crazy combination?
You have this,
and then you have...
The clothes are here.
But it's not only clothes.
It's more.
It's also...
how do you call it?...
covers, sheets for the...
No, no. Everything is here.
Here. Isn't this nice,
close to the kitchen?
Here are socks, underwear.
This is all my stuff,
and basically,
this is all my stuff:
Newspapers, journals.
These are my books
in foreign languages.
Two copies of each one.
So this is strictly prohibited.
It looks bad.
because this is
mostly new stuff.
- Oh, this is...
- Do you keep everything?
I am narcissist here.
Yes, I keep everything.
- Do you keep...
- What is this doing here?
This should go elsewhere.
I'm sorry. I just...
I'll go far back,
so this is there.
Just let me...
Okay, if you need
the "Mladina" stuff,
Ah, yes, there are some of them here.
Let's see what's here,
because these are
the big format thing.
These are some early
"Mladina" from...
Ah, this is from
the dissident times.
Yes. Mid-'80s, I started
to write from time to time.
For two years,
some people even claim
that I was the most influential.
But then new political
divisions start,
and I was too combative,
attacking everyone.
This was me.
This was my fame.
I worked like crazy
at that time,
because I was writing
I never wanted to endanger,
not even minimally, the theory,
which is why I was
never, never interested
in any kind of political career,
because it simply takes time.
Two days before the election,
there was a big round table
with all the candidates:
I don't know how much.
A right wing naive good guy,
but basically an idiot,
made a fatal mistake,
which everybody remembered.
Not even a mistake,
a kindness:
Namely, as usual,
as you can imagine,
I talked quite a lot,
too much,
and then this guy wanted
to censor me friendly,
and turned to me...
this was all live, big debate,
central TV.
"Listen, we all know
that your I.Q. Is twice as all
of us others combined,
but nonetheless, could you
let us a little bit to talk?"
But everybody remembered
that, you know?
You see?
Even they admit
that he is the bright guy.
I remember then, you know,
after it was over,
when the lights went off,
the cameras went off,
all other candidates started
to shout at this guy,
like "Are you idiot?
Are you crazy?"
Because then I jumped up
immediately
and almost got elected.
When I first visited the States,
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