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13th Page #8
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- 2016
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We are America's leader
in partnership corrections.
We are CCA.
And so, through ALEC,
CCA had a hand in shaping crime policy
across the country,
including, not just prison privatization,
but the rapid increase in criminalization.
I think this accusation, you know,
quite frankly, is just false.
That somehow ALEC was in favor
of imprisoning a bunch of people, uh,
because of private prisons...
I think that's just, unfortunately,
one of these tactics they do on ALEC.
ALEC pushed forward a number of policies
to increase the number of people in prison
and to increase the sentences
of people who are in prison.
I'm trying to think how you address it.
It's hard to address something that's like
almost like folklore at this point.
They are not doing anything
or to address the real consequences
for real people
of the extreme policies they've pushed.
In fact, it doesn't talk about
its past history.
I mean, it's hard for me
to even understand, uh,
what they're even talking about.
A lot of it.
CCA directly benefited,
directly profited from its investment
in ALEC,
the American Legislative Exchange Council.
And the American people, in many ways,
due to the mass incarceration
of people, particularly people of color.
Look, right now our position
is that we want less people in prison.
I don't think that helps the private
prison industry, quite frankly.
I think myself and the lawmakers,
we're just always looking for better,
innovative ways to run government.
I think that's one thing
as conservatives, who believe in
the free market and limited government,
We're supposed to be
the party of innovation.
Another bill
that ALEC innovated was SB 1070.
CCA was on the ALEC task force
that pushed that law
that gave police
the right to stop anyone
they thought looked like an immigrant.
This law filled
immigration detention facilities,
and it directly benefited
an ALEC member, CCA.
CCA could potentially reap
huge financial benefits from SB 1070,
since 1070 was designed to lock up
a lot more people in Arizona
on federal immigration charges.
Cha-ching!
An influx of undocumented
immigrants, many of them children...
In Arizona, Corrections
Corporation of America, or CCA,
holds the federal contract
It's worth more than $11 million
every month.
Our, uh, immigration facilities
are a disgrace.
There are families kept there,
uh, in horrible conditions.
They're called "detention facilities,"
but they're really prisons for immigrants.
Calling them "detention facility"
doesn't make them not a prison.
They're a prison.
They just have a different name.
We're having what some people are saying
is a creation of a "crimmigration" system.
That there's the merger
of our immigration enforcement
and our law enforcement system.
And so, that's some of the same things
that were used in the war on drugs,
are now migrating to other populations.
You heard it, uh, with Donald Trump,
not about blacks but with Mexicans.
You know,
"Oh, well, they're rapists, murderers.
Oh, and by the way,
some of 'em may be good people."
Oh, boy. You know, where do you start
on something like that?
In late 2010, CCA left ALEC
after a big NPR story came out
accusing ALEC of pushing SB 1070.
ALEC doesn't do anything on immigration.
No. No which way. Not to the right,
not to the left. Nothing.
So, I don't really have anything
for you on that one. Sorry.
ALEC has recently made
what I would describe as a PR move
to say that it's gonna be right on crime.
That it's gonna be on the right side
of criminal justice policy and reform.
That move comes in the wake of its loss
of a massive number of corporations.
What ultimately happened is our board
looked at the issues that ALEC worked on
and decided
that we don't do social issues,
we're focused on economic issues.
We jettisoned basically almost
all of our legislation that was pre-2007.
So we basically...
This industry knows that it's dying...
and is actually preparing
for the next thing.
And the animating factors that have
led to such a system like bail.
new permutations of a cancer. Right?
And that's what this is.
And over the last couple years,
since 2008,
we've been involved really
where 31 states have now adopted
positive changes on sentencing,
on parole and probation reforms.
ALEC has a concerted effort to privatize
almost every aspect of government,
but we had no idea
that they were also aiming
to try to privatize probation and parole.
ALEC is no longer concerned
about CCA and CCA's interest.
CCA no longer has
a seat at the table with ALEC,
so it doesn't have a financial interest
in advancing policies
that increase the profits of CCA.
But the American Bail Coalition
is still part of ALEC.
Today, our state penitentiaries
are filled to the brim
and overflowing with inmates.
When I think
of systems of oppression,
uh, historically, in this country
and elsewhere, they're durable.
And they tend to reinvent themselves,
and they do it right under your nose.
One of the things they want to do
is GPS monitoring.
Having a home confinement system
for juveniles, I think, is a great thing
'cause it forces the parents
to take responsibility and step up.
Prisons would be
more embedded in our homes.
Some of them would be monitored
So folks won't be locked up in a cage,
in a cell, inside of an institution,
but they will have ankle bracelets on.
They'll have wrist bracelets on.
Would that help to solve
the prison overcrowding problem?
Absolutely.
And what I worry about is that
we fall asleep at the wheel and wake up,
and realize that we may not
have people in prisons
in rural communities all over America,
but that we're incarcerating people
right in their communities.
That is what I see,
what a lot of the focus is on,
putting them in community corrections
parole and probation,
and really investing in those programs.
How much progress is it really,
if communities of color are still under
perpetual surveillance and control,
but now there's a private company
making money off the GPS monitor,
rather than the person
being locked in a literal cage?
If we can help you...
save crime victims
in your legislative district...
you don't mind me making a dollar.
And so, ALEC continues
to be a body that,
while it may have some
really strong rhetoric
on why it supports
crime reform now, suddenly,
uh, sort of out of the blue,
it actually has real financial interests.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
If you're in the prison business,
uh, you don't want reform.
You may say you do, but you don't.
And there are a bunch of people out there
desperately trying to make sure
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