808 Page #10
again a decade later where we could
bend the 808, where we could, we could
harness its power. You know what I mean.
People could tune their kick drums, so
the kick drum could play the bass at the
same time, and that was something
that to be honest when I first put
headphones on I was like,
"Hang on a minute."
There was drums and there was bass,
but now the two were sort of fused
so the feel was not just complex and
rhythmical but it was also tonal.
For me the first idea of bending it was
Hit Factory, KRS One. I always wanted
to do a track with Kris, and I always
felt that a homage thing would use an 808
on the VIP especially of KRS One for me was...
You know... that's like...
I've met my heroes I might as well
go and get hit by a Mack truck now.
KRS One, come back
in digital
KRS One, come back
in digital
The biggest problem we had with it was
how do you cut it. How do you effect it
and cut it on a lathe, because I'd have
people like Stuart at Masterpiece going, or
Leon at Music Power, "Boy, the thing it
just jumped out man, it's blowing the
"head, it's blowing the head out man.
The thing's got too much bass man, on
"the bass man. Too much bass
this and bass that."
And it was true because
we were cranking it and
go across and it would go...
That's the bass. So we would have
to go back and tone it down,
or cut it in mono. And then we started trying
to echo it and reverb it where it would
just be shuddering around, and you would
see the speaker going... Woom woom woom...
That's the 808 lads,
that's the 808.
It wasn't until we had spectrum analyzers
where you could see, ah there's your problem.
You've got all this sound going like
that and then there's this one peak,
that's the bass line, just out of the roof,
there's nothing else, it's just gone.
Throughout its life the 808 has continued
to inspire and influence musicians,
lending its beats to countless
iconic recordings.
Throughout the 90s, 2000s
and into the present day,
the 808 sounds continue to
be as relevant as ever.
Without an 808 you couldn't
have what we call bass music.
You couldn't have what I did,
crunk music, you couldn't have
the Memphis movement,
you couldn't have New
Orleans bounce music.
It's the foundation of those tracks, those
tracks won't sound the same without that boom.
It's got to have that drop.
alive in the south
for a long time as it became
probably dormant
in the rest of the world and
then southern rap just rose.
A former Miami Bass producer out
of New Orleans, Mannie Fresh,
who was the in-house Producer for Cash
Money Records and working beneath the
radar, he kept the New Orleans bounce
sound alive which is heavily related to
Miami Bass. And when Master P
became a powerful independent
record label owner and Universal
Records
went down to New Orleans to
find out who else
was working down there, they found
Cash Money they found Mannie Fresh,
and that's why the 808 became today's
pop music, today's hip-hop music,
because bounce became more influenced.
Lil Jon with the whole Atlanta
Crunk scene and TBT Records got on board
and Atlantic Records got on board
with Trick Daddy, and now we
have today's top 40 music.
I think my biggest record of my
life ever
with an 808 is
'Yeah!' by Usher.
Yeah, yeah
Okay, okay, Usher, Usher
Lil Jon, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
let's go
It's Usher's biggest record of his career,
the album went on to sell ten million
records, and that was the single that
blew that album up. It was an R&B
singer, singing over an 808, and really a dance sound.
Like nobody had really kinda bridged
those worlds together before me. And
that's also why I see myself as an 808
guy because I mean I really had
the 808 booming in that track.
So I got up and followed
her to the floor
She said baby let's
go, let's go
When I told her I said
yeah, yeah, yeah
What really made that song so big, it was
that it appealed to people in the hood,
ghetto mother f***ers, to pop mother f***ers.
And that's a wide variety and
range of people to appeal to. To appeal to super
pop and super hood, you know, is amazing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
There is a whole school of rap beats
currently that use the 808 kick pretty
much exclusively. And the thing that's
amazing is that there are still new
patterns being created with it. The type
of really stuttery and pitched snare and
hi-hat patterns that you hear in this current
era of Lex Luger, Drummer Boy, kind of
post Mannie Fresh southern hip-hop production,
that's a whole other kind of evolution.
One really defining 808 thing
for me and I was actually
talking this yesterday with
Tiga, we started
talking about how the 808 actually
changed both of our lives quite a bit.
I was a DJ and I owned a
nightclub and a record store.
I was doing well for myself in
Montreal in Canada.
Anyway I had obviously lots of
dreams and stuff
and it all hinged on production
and I was a bit lazy. And then
one day my friend Jori
Hulkkonen, he came to Montreal, I brought
him to Montreal for a New Years Eve
party and we had like a day off
or something the next day.
We had nothing to do
so Tiga had an 808.
I had a Juno, and
we rented an MPC.
Miss Kittin & The Hacker had just done this EP.
They had done a couple of
cover versions. I think they had like 'Sweet
Dreams' with Miss Kittin re-singing it.
Kind of like dirty electro version and we
thought, "Oh we want to do something like this."
We started screwing around and we made
'Sunglasses At Night', this track.
It took like an
hour and a half.
Which is almost entirely 808, no effects
chain nothing it was just raw 808 to DAT.
That became one of the biggest club records of
that year and kind of started Tiga's career.
I wear my sunglasses
at night
So I can, so I can
Watch you weave then breathe
your story lines
The track became super successful
and it completely launched me.
I mean I don't think I'd be
here if it wasn't for that.
That was the first record that Tiga was
ever part of producing and making of
so that kind of started
Tiga's whole career.
Don't masquerade with the
guy in shades, oh no
I think the record sold like two
hundred and fifty thousand copies.
And it was beyond raw, I mean beyond
ghetto, it was exactly punk rock or
exactly how I imagine the old
Chicago guys making their tracks.
That kind of changed a lot of things for us, so the
808 actually has been a big influence in my career.
I love the 808 for me
it changed my life.
Oh no
I wear my sunglasses
at night
So I can, so I can, watch you
weave
A lot of the use of the 808 is
down to people who
are open to new technology using
the thing.
Producers, it's like
the thing that I really like
about Rick and obviously about
Bambaataa and certain people that take
things and use them in a different
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