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to do with an 808 record, right
split second innovation. Nobody could
have ever imagined it would be this
backwards, stripped down drum machine
loop vibrating windows around the world.
We just tried to find ways to amp it
up, to be as over the top as possible.
Overloading things to just take
them to an extreme place.
Our intension really was to
like shatter windows.
We wanted to take it to a place where
it was really like abusive kind of.
Rick Rubin had a period in 1985
where
he did 'Together Forever'
for Run DMC,
'Slow and Low' for the Beastie
Boys,
and at the same time Russell
Simmons got a Columbia deal,
deal, put out 'Crush Groove',
and then boom LL Cool
J is the poster boy.
And suddenly 'Rock the Bells' is on
the top forty charts with full bass.
'Planet Rock' introduced the
808 to hip-hop music.
From there, Rick Rubin figured out that you could
get bass out of it by tuning it to full decay.
The rumor is Dr. Dre of Original Concept showed
him how to even get a fuller tone out of it.
To me the most incredible use of it
was Dr. Dre from the East Coast.
He created the record
called 'Knowledge Me'.
One of the early Def Jam records that nobody
knows, under the name of Original Concept.
He took the 808 and did something
to it that made it huge.
and they started really
misusing the boom kick drum,
and it just went boom.
-You know what I'm saying, man? I went to
see Rusty J man -And where you go next?
Rusty J with the headline
on the radio, man?
Yo man Rusty J be fresh, you know what
I'm saying cuz? Yo he had a lot of
That record, I would go
in and sample that,
and that was my 808 for the
rest of the records.
'Bring The Noise', 'Rebel Without
A Pause', and the list goes on.
'Party For Your Right To
Fight', you know, Terrordome'.
Anything that I could possibly
put, had to have that.
When you listen to Rubin's
stuff or you listen to
or you listen to the Shocklee
or Eric Sadler
or Bomb Squad Productions,
it was just larger than life. I mean it literally
felt like it had come from, from Mars or something.
And a lot of the intrigue was just trying to
work out what the composite of that sound was.
I was listening to a
Marly Marl record,
and he sampled the kick and the
snare from records all right,
but then he also added a sustain kick on the
one so you get this kind of like kick-boom.
And I'm sitting there going like,
"Yo, I want to sample that."
So I sampled that a million
different ways.
And from that point on, that
particular sound was in everything,
it's kind of like milk
or adding water,
it's like you cannot make a record
without having that 808 sound.
It's just, it's just not, it's just
not hip-hop, it's not authentic.
I am taking no prisoners,
taking no shorts
Breakin' with the metal
of a couple of forts
While we're hearin' that
boom supplement the mix
Gonna rush 'em like
the Bears in the 46
Homeboys I don't know but
they're part of the pack
In the plan against the
man, bum rush attack
For the suckers at the door,
if you're up and around
For the suckers at the door,
we're gonna knock you right down
Yo! Bum rush the show, yo!
Come on man lets go back to 'Yo! Bum
Rush The Show', 'Rightstarter',
'My Uzi Weighs a ton'.
It didn't matter.
It's like whatever record
I was making, it's like,
it wasn't complete unless, "Yo, we've
got to put the 808 in this sh*t man."
Bang, and now the record's finished, all right.
But I didn't care if it was a ballad.
It was like, "Okay, I'm doing an R&B
ballad, okay it's not complete,
"put the 808 in it,
it's hot now."
It's been a long time
While hip-hop and electro
dominated in New York,
a new sound was developing
further south.
the 808 kick drum.
In the 80s and part of the 90s,
home and an identity in Miami,
you know, the whole Miami Bass
sound.
It really comes from 'Planet Rock'
to be honest. I mean the 808,
I wonder if 'Planet Rock' was done on a different
drum machine if Miami Bass would sound different.
In New York it was like TKA,
Lisa Lisa and all these people,
so nobody out in Miami
was doing it.
So I go, "You know what,
let me try doing it."
The first record I did was 'Fix It In The Mix'.
That went platinum.
If you got a problem that
you cannot really fix
Let me hear your problem and
I'll fix it in my mix
The problem I had was, the first record I
did went platinum they go, "He's lucky,"
because if it wasn't from New
York, it can't be real.
Second went platinum,
"He's still lucky."
Third one, "I've got to watch
this guy he might..."
And then by like four and
five I was accepted.
I was one of the first people that I
knew about put bass boom on a record,
and it just sound awesome, so I was
just coming out of being a DJ,
so I go, I reflected back to my crowd
and I go they would love this.
Problem was when I went
to the mastering lab
they go, "You can't do that."
I go, "What do you mean?"
"You can't put that boom on a record." I said,
"Well listen I'm paying you, put it on."
And I took it from the mastering lab to
the radio station, and it went crazy.
In Miami all of a sudden it was this
very local music, it was very southern,
neighborhoods there.
You know, there was probably
six to eight different
acts that were all just 808,
808, 808.
You couldn't use no other drum
machine, for the Miami Bass
style of music, it was a must.
It spawned this huge scene down in Florida where
it no longer was just in the skating rink,
now it was making its way out into the
masses, and to the high school dances,
and to the clubs.
My first experience of the 808
came when we were
Hollywood.
We used to call it The Box. In
those days Luther Campbell,
Luke Skywalker was running the place
with a song called 'Throw That Dick'.
So Mr. Mixx, Mr. Hobbs who was the main guy,
who was the beat producer at that time,
he would come to the studio and me and my
other partner was the engineers there.
My blueprint was taking elements
of the 'Planet Rock' record,
you know, using that as the tempo
guide and then actually taking
hot records that was at the
same beat per minute speed
the 808 drum machine,
and then putting comedy stabs of
wild and crazy stuff being said.
You know, that was my gumbo pot of making
what they ended up calling Miami Bass.
Back in the days the iPhone wasn't there where
you could film Mr. Mixx making his loop,
and two tracks at a time,
you know what I mean.
He would be using the SP-1200 for
his music sampling, chopping up.
And you'd leave him there about,
say one o'clock in the day.
By about six thirty you'd come back and
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