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Okay.

Now put me through the MS-NBC.

Frank?

- Yeah.

- Yeah, turn on the MSN-BC.

They've granted Forster

a live interview.

I can't, Jack,

I'm in the car.

It's all right. They also will cast.

You just turn on 750 AM.

I'm phoning in.

Wait a second. You think is such

a good idea? With all the court actions?

I think he's behind everything. I think

he's behind the phone calls, threats...

I'm gonna try to get inside his head.

Make him crack.

Okay?

You wanna stay on the line, please?

- Dr. Gramm?

- Yeah.

You're on the air.

I've been told that we have Dr. Gramm

joining us by phone.

- Dr. Gramm, are you there?

- I'm here.

Have you been watching

the interview?

- Is that what you call it?

- What would you call it?

I don't know, I don't call it an

interview. I call it an entertainment.

I call it a performance, maybe.

You must have got something to say

or you wouldn't have called in.

Oh, yeah, I think it's very interesting

that Forster talks about forgiveness.

I just want him to know that

his victims have not forgiven him.

Look, you've lied under oath,

Dr. Gramm, and you know it.

This is not about me.

This about the women you've raped...

and tortured and murdered.

- Women like Janie Kay.

- I have nothing to do with her death...

- and you know it.

- Nothing to do with her death?

There was an eyewitness,

a twin sister who identified you.

She was at the scene

and identified you.

She was drugged

and beaten so badly...

she said that she couldn't

be sure, but you...

you bereaved her until she said

it was me.

Interesting that you didn't say

that you're innocent.

- I had nothing to do with the death...

- No, I don't. I know you're convicted.

You're convicted by a jury.

You were trialed and convicted,

that's what I know.

Trial? That wasn't a trial,

that was an inquisition.

And the jury believed your lies.

You had to cause pain, suffer and death,

so you could feel alive.

Wait a second.

Pain and suffer is something that you,

forensics, know how to inflict.

Even your idol, Ted Bundy,

ultimately, identified his victims.

How about, man,

identify your victims?

How about?

The bodies of Terry Hines, Alicia Smith,

Samantha Green. Where are they, man?

Come on, where are they?

Give these people's families closure,

man! Give them closure.

You're on national television now!

Millions of people are watching you.

Come on!

How about your colleague in London,

in the Clark case?

Putting in an innocent mother

for murdering her baby? Well done!

Well done, doctor. You must be so proud

of being part of an elite fortunate.

Fortunately for her,

her conviction was overturned...

when the doctor's testimony

turned out to be an absurd.

Quack, quack, Dr. Gramm?

You now what?

Why don't you take a good look

at your watch?

A good look.

Now imagine what it'd be like to be

minutes away from your own death.

To hear the ticking of a clock...

and know that your time on earth

is drying to a close.

Thank you.

There's another package for you,

Dr. Gramm. Should I send it up?

This has just got in.

A three judge panel of the Nine Circuit

has just granted John Forster...

a stay of the execution.

What?

Are you serious?

You hear that, Frank?

Yeah, I heard.

Forster got the stay.

I got him going, didn't I?

No cigar.

Why did you send me

on a wild goose chase, Jack?

What do you mean,

wild goose chase?

D'Franco is not a serial killer,

he's a serial groupie.

So he's a groupie so what?

What's the big deal?

I've just got a call from Jeremy Guber

from attorney general office.

You are wanted for questioning

on the murder of Dale Morris.

What?

What are you talking about?

They've found physical evidence at

her apartment that implicates you, Jack.

What evidence?

Jack...

you know I can't say.

What you mean, you can't say?

What does that mean?

- Frank?

- There's someone to see you...

Mister, you can't go up there.

You told the doorman

to don't let anyone up.

It's all right, don't worry.

Don't worry, no-one is getting in.

The state attorney general

has just announced that his appealing...

is taken to the State Supreme Court

immediately.

Jack. There's smoke.

We'll keep you informed

with further developments.

There's smoke here too.

It's your boyfriend.

Let Kim go.

Let her go now

and no-one will get hurt.

Guy, I'm fine.

There's no problem here.

The building is on fire.

That's a problem.

- He's got a gun.

- Okay. Listen to me.

I know this man and I know

he's not gonna hurt me again.

You have to trust me, Jack.

Please, open the door.

- Do it quickly. There's smoke up here.

- Kim.

Guy, I'm coming out.

We can calm things down, okay?

Guy, look at me.

I'm fine. There's no problem here.

- What are you doing with him?

- I'm okay. There's no problem.

Guy has been shot.

No!

On the roof there's a fire escape.

Okay?

- When I say "go", follow me.

- Okay.

Do you think he is dead?

- He doesn't look good.

- We should go back up there.

I gotta go back there

and help him.

No. You can't go up there.

Man.

- Yeah?

- Jack, I need to talk to you.

I need two minutes to clarify

something?

Shelley, I can't talk now.

I'll talk to you

when I get to Sara Pollard apartment.

Miss. Lewinsky.

Are you okay?

- I'm just a little bit dizzy.

- Come.

Because I didn't see

a device with a timer.

Get the bomb squad,

this is the second one.

Go.

- Get her some oxygen.

- All right. We got her, sir.

Let's go outside.

You gonna be all right.

Jack, I don't see the shooter,

do you?

Jack.

- He's got a gun.

- Where?

Where the hell is he?

- Where?

- Jack!

Get down!

- Kim!

- Keep moving!

Kim, where are you?

Go, go, go!

Move back!

- Are you okay?

- Yeah, I'm gonna live.

Here, let's go.

Where are we going?

To Sara Pollard house.

She's the girl I was with

last night.

That's funny.

It worked in the garage.

Why did you do that?

I don't know.

I had a feeling...

Are you okay?

What next?

I don't know.

- Okay, let's get out of here.

- Okay.

- Is that your cab?

- Yeah.

Okay.

I give you a hundred bucks...

you let me drive it.

I'm just going across town.

A hundred bucks?

A hundred bucks plus tip.

How is that?

All right.

I can not believe that.

Guy is dead.

He is. He is dead.

Sh*t.

You have not to say, huh?

It's just another day

in the life of Jack Gramm.

Okay.

Can you wait outside the cab

for a minute?

- You bet.

- Thanks.

You asked me about

my kid sister.

Okay. It was a long time ago.

She was staying at my apartment

in New York City.

She was 12, I was 28.

And I was late for a meeting.

Very important meeting.

A meeting

that was gonna change my life.

It was gonna make me

into somebody important.

Make all my dreams come true,

so...

I went to this meeting

on my dissertation.

And I left her there by herself.

I could have taken her with me.

I could have left her with friends.

I could have postpone

the meeting.

But I chose not to,

because I was in a hurry.

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