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and then like some
self-righteous fundamentalist
gets into a discussion about
creation and evolution.
I'm sorry you're so upset.
I mean, do you have any idea
how embarrassing this
is going to be for me'?
Rachel, I wouldn't be looking
at it like that.
How would you like it
if your parent
was going to debate the most
popular Professor on campus?
Put yourself in my shoes.
I understand,
but I don't necessarily think
it's a bad thing.
It's not like
Professor Kaman's preaching
some son of gospel truth here.
I've gotta stop this.
[Chair movement]
[Phone ringing]
It's Rachel.
[Phone ringing]
Rachel.
RACHEL:
Hi Dad.I'm calling to ask you
to please stop this debate.
Rachel we were
just talking about you.
I am glad you called.
This is going to ruin me
on campus Dad.
STEPHEN:
I am not tryingto hurt you.
But you are.
Rachel, this is
an important issue.
You're not going to change
Professor Kaman's mind.
Then how does he believe
the universe was created?
What does he teach you in class?
That there was a big bang
or something.
Dad, if you love me,
you will stop this debate.
Please don't say that.
You must stop this debate.
Rachel please.
You must stop it!
[Music]
She hung up.
[sigh]
You can't leave it like that.
You gotta call her back.
[Music]
[Phone ringing]
RACHEL:
Hi,this is Rachel Whitaker,
I'm not here right now...
Voicemail.
[Music]
Hey.
Hey.
I set up a meeting
with Professor Kaman
to do that interview.
Did you talk to
that father yet'?
Oh no, I was getting
ready to call him.
Before you do,
I think you should
check this out.
What'?
Professor Kaman was
in the news yesterday.
Front page story.
We didn't run a story
on Kaman yesterday.
Yeah, well we did
twelve years ago.
It appears our dear Professor
got one of his colleagues
fired over this same issue.
What'?
Yeah, some instructor
named Portland
refused to teach evolution
in his biology class
and Kaman got him ousted.
It's all there.
[Music]
Oh and by the way,
when you talk to that Dad,
tell him I said good luck.
[Music]
STEPHEN:
Listen to what it saysin this high school textbook.
I picked up at the library.
"Humans came
from apelike ancestors.
"There is nothing supernatural
about the origins
of human beings."
How can they say that
and get away with it'?
I don't know but they are.
[The phone rings]
Stephen Whitaker.
EVAN:
Mr. Whitaker.This is Evan Carlson,
calling from the University.
I am a student on staff
at the campus paper here
and our editor wants to do
a preliminary story
about the upcoming debate.
Would you be able
to meet up sir'?
Meet'?
Well I live about
three hours from there.
Yes, I know.
I was thinking we could
meet halfway.
Can't we just take care of this
over the phone'?
I know Rachel sir
and I'm aware of the situation.
I'm a Christian,
and I'm on your side.
I've got some information that
may prove to be helpful to you
but I'd rather talk to you
about it in person.
[Birds chirping]
EVAN:
Kaman is smartand clever.
EVAN:
Kaman is smartand clever.
He'll take what you say
twist it around,
question you, corner you.
I've seen him debate before
and he is good at it.
STEPHEN:
And I've never debatedanyone before in my fife.
Sounds like a mismatch to me.
How many people have
come to these events?
EVAN:
Normally not manytwenty five, thirty
but there will be
more at this one
especially since
Kaman's doing it.
He'll probably make all
his classes attend as well.
STEPHEN:
Much to Rachel'sdelight I'm sure.
EVAN:
Plus the editor is runningthis story before the debate
which isn't normal,
and he is planning to contact
the local media,
could get a pretty
good audience.
STEPHEN:
Great. More pressure.EVAN:
Look, I got some materialin the car with good information
on science from a
Biblical perspective,
I'll give it to you.
Thanks. Appreciate it.
We can sit here.
You seem pretty serious
about this.
Maybe you should be
the one debating Kaman.
God didn't give me
the opportunity sir.
He gave it to you and I think
what you're doing is great.
Rachel sure doesn't.
I found out something
interesting.
Twelve years ago at the
University there was an incident
involving Kaman and another
Professor on the same subject.
Joseph G. Portland.
Portland used to teach
Kaman's class,
except for he taught creation.
Kaman joined the
university staff that year,
didn't like it
and got him fired.
That's Portland's contact info.
He lives nearby.
Maybe you could
give him a call.
Or even try to go see him.
He could offer
some good insight.
I'll keep this in mind.
And now I do have
several questions
I'd need to ask you
for the article.
Sure.
I think it's interesting
you chose to meet here.
I figured it was about halfway.
This place is very
special to me.
What do you mean'?
Let me show you something.
[Music]
This is about the spot.
When Rachel was ten years old,
we were spending
the day here together
and she was over
by this river playing.
I remember she was
looking for stones
that she could throw
in the river.
Suddenly though,
lying on the ground
and just after she reached down
and picked it up,
a boy grabbed her hand
and took it from her.
I saw this from over there
and noticed how he taunted her
as he walked away and went
back towards his father.
Rachel of course was
upset over losing the coin
because she found it first and
came over to complain to me.
[Music continues]
I then tried to use that
incident as an example.
I told her it was wrong for the
boy to take that coin from her
and that stealing was a sin.
But, I also pointed out
to her how all of us
have sinned against God
in our own lives.
In essence, we've stolen
many coins from Him.
And the only one who can forgive
us for our sins is Jesus.
Rachel seemed
to understand this,
we prayed to the Lord together
and I believe that day
she became a Christian.
[Music continues]
That's great.
[Music continues]
Hard for me to believe someone
to drift away from
what she's been taught.
[Music]
Let's go over
to that picnic table
and I'll answer those
questions for you.
[Music]
[Kimberly chopping veggies]
Oh hey, how'd it go?
It went well.
Evan's a committed believer
and was very helpful.
I need to make
a quick phone call
and then I'll tell you
more about it.
Okay-
[Footsteps]
[dialing]
[phone ringing]
Hello.
STEPHEN:
Professor Portland?This is he.
Hi, my name is Stephen Whitaker
and I have an unusual situation
I'd like to speak
to about for a moment.
What is this pertaining to'?
Well, first, lam a Christian
and my daughter goes to the
university you used to teach at.
That's right I don't
teach anymore.
STEPHEN:
Yes sir, I know.because she's taking a class
from a Professor Kaman and
I'd like to ask you about him.
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