A Matter of Faith Page #8

Not together.

I thought that things

were going great.

Did someone say

something to you'?

I got right with the LORD.

And I want to start living

my life to please Him.

I'd be happy to tell

to you about it

if you want to hear more.

No, no, I'm not ready for that.

I'm sorry, I should have told

you about this much sooner,

but I was just so selfish

and caught up in my own stuff.

And for that, I am truly sorry.

[Music continues]

I'm going to be late

for my game.

[Music continues]

Bye Tyler.

You ain't kidding.

What did you say to her?

What'?

What did you say to her?

What are you doing man'?

What did you tell her?

Who?

Rachel!

I don't know what

you're talking about.

She turned on me man.

Somehow she knows.

Well, it wasn't me.

Well, someone told her.

It wasn't me.

Luke, did you say something?

Not me.

TYLER:
Well somehow

she found out.

She pulled some religion garbage

on me about a minute ago

and now we're over.

Okay, what's the big deal'?

Is it a big deal.

I wasted a lot of time

on this girl.

Dude, I told you

she wasn't worth it.

And you didn't listen to me.

Somehow she found out.

[chatter]

[Music]

Hello Pastor.

I told you we'd be here.

And several others

from the church

have come out as well.

Thank you for coming.

Professor Kaman.

Hey Phil.

That little paper of yours

has more of a circulation

than I would have guessed.

Yes, it's a good crowd.

I see the visiting team

has some followers

here tonight.

Hey, we're ready to start

so if you will take your place,

I'll go inform your opponent.

Got it.

[Crowd talking]

Stephen Whitaker?

Yes.

Phil Jamison, Journalism,

we spoke on the phone.

Thanks for coming.

My wife Kimberly.

It's a pleasure.

Hi.

We're ready to begin,

so if you'll take your place

up there on stage,

we'll get started.

Sure.

Okay-

People are praying for you.

Hello, hello, hello.

I'm Phil Jamison.

I'm Phil Jamison.

I am the Professor of Journalism

here at the University

and I'd like to welcome

everyone to our debate tonight

which deals with the subject of

Evolution versus Creationism.

What a great crowd,

I'm a little nervous

up here myself,

I can only imagine what our two

combatants must be feeling.

It's my best line guys,

it's all I've got.

[Crowd laughs].

Let me introduce to you

our two participants now.

On my left, speaking

on behalf of Creationism,

he has a daughter who attends

the university here.

Please give a warm welcome

to Mister Stephen Whitaker.

[Mild applause]

And on my right,

a man who needs no introduction,

he is arguing on behalf

of Evolution,

he is from our

Biology department,

please give a warm welcome

to Professor Marcus Kaman.

[Strong applause]

Okay, this is how this

is going to work.

Both men will are going to give

brief opening statements

and then they'll be able to

question each other's comments

and after that,

we going to open up this forum

to you, the audience,

for your questions.

Okay?

Mister Whitaker, you are first,

you may begin with

your opening statement.

Thank you.

[Clears throat]

Let me say first,

that I've never done anything

like this before.

I do believe though

that the topic at hand

is an important one and in fact,

as I prepared for this debate

it became clearer to me

that it's more important

than I ever realized.

It seems that when

the question is posed

as to how life came

to exist on our planet,

the theory of evolution

has become the dominant

scientific view

that is taught in our

schools and universities

across this great land of ours.

Frankly, this amazes me.

The first problem I immediately

see is that evolution

is not scientific in the

truest sense of the word

since science deals with

what can be observed

and reproduced

through experimentation.

Scientific claims

must be accepted

only after they have

been verified.

The origin of life

can be neither observed

nor reproduced

in any laboratory,

even though

they try to show us this

with their illustrations

in the textbooks I studied.

By definition then,

true naturalistic science

can furnish no knowledge

about where any life form,

including the human race,

came from or how it got here.

If God did not create the

universe than who or what did'?

A big bang that produced

a cosmic explosion'?

What caused it to go bang'?

A chemical reaction?

What organized the original

chemicals or molecules or gases

or whatever evolutionists

say happened

to form life here on earth'?

And how did it create

so much detail and beauty

and design and intelligence?

Nothing times something

does not equal everything

and yet, as I see it,

that is the true definition

of an evolutionary view

of the universe and what

millions and millions of people

are placing their trust in as

how life on this earth began.

The evolutionary world view

is clearly as much a religion

as any theistic worldview.

Not only is the

teaching of evolution

an attack against

those well-known

first words of the Bible,

"In the beginning,

God created the heaven

and the earth,"

but it is an undermining assault

against the authority of God

which really becomes

the main issue here.

At least when we're starting

with God as the first cause,

it seems that everything else

that happens makes sense.

That's it I guess

for my opening statement.

Thank you.

[Mild applause]

Thank you Mister Whitaker.

Professor Kaman,

your opening statement please.

Well first I'd like to say

well done Mister Whitaker,

very well done.

You have debated before.

You put forth some very

compelling questions and ideas.

In fact, I think if we were

to pass a hat right now,

you might being in a nice

donation or two.

[People laugh]

I just had a few problems

with what you said

especially at the end there

about God being the first cause,

you can't prove any of it.

Now I know you're going to say

that it all has to be

taken on faith,

but that's always

the out on your side.

That's always the explanation.

We know what faith is;

It's wishful thinking.

And in case you haven't noticed,

things don't always turn out

so good at the end.

The good guy doesn't always win.

Wishful thinking

doesn't bring home the bacon

and it cannot ever be proven.

But, when it comes

to the evolutionary answer,

laboratory experimentation and

intensive scientific analysis

have proven conclusively

that living organisms

evolved from

nonliving chemicals,

and what makes that so important

is that it means that

intelligence wasn't needed

for life to form

in the beginning.

We are all descendants

of a common ancestor,

just as you and your cousins

are descendants

of a common grandmother.

And through a process of descent

with modification,

that common ancestor gave rise

to the fantastic diversity

that we see in the fossil record

and living all around us today.

That is proof Mister Whitaker.

That is scientific proof.

Evolution means that

we're all distant cousins.

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