Banking on Bitcoin Page #4
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where he told me that he was
gonna step away from the project
and do something else.
He never told me what else
he's gonna do
or that he is doing.
I had just been invited
to give a talk at the CIA.
And I told satoshi that
I accepted the invitation
to go speak at the CIA.
After he sent
that email to satoshi
telling him that he was
planning on going to the CIA,
he never heard
from satoshi again,
and that was essentially the last
time anybody heard from satoshi.
You very quickly get caught up
in the question
of who is satoshi nakamoto?
Where did this come from?
Who is this person?
I mean, this is the 2000s.
Information is out there,
everything.
Everyone knows everything
about everybody.
How can there possibly
be a person
that nobody knows
who this guy is?
But there is a person...
At least I think it's a person.
It might be a group...
Who nobody knows
who this guy is.
And he kind of appears
out of nowhere in 2008
on these cryptography
email lists,
with this system called bitcoin.
He's very active
in the early years,
there's a lot of back and forth
with him communicating
with people.
It seemed like most people
kind of wrote him off
as kind of like a
delusions-of-grandeur kind of scheme.
Hal Finney, on the other hand,
seemed to be really interested
right from the beginning.
He was a crypto-idealist.
Like, he was not as
kind of cynical
as many of the other cypherpunks
so he got really into this.
He started talking
to satoshi nakamoto,
who he said seemed like some
young Japanese American coder.
to work with nakamoto.
He was a cryptographer.
Soon as nakamoto released it,
he was one of the first people
to email him back and say,
"hey, this is interesting.
I'd like to work with you."
And in the first weeks
of bitcoin
he worked with him
back and forth
setting up the system.
And satoshi nakamoto
ended up sending hal Finney
the first ever bitcoin
transaction.
Any discussion
of satoshi's identity
has to go back to the fact
that bitcoin
was based on this small number
of projects back in the 1990s
that only a handful
of people knew about,
like hashcash
and bit gold and b money,
and so you end up with
a pretty small group of people
who would have known
about these projects.
People though chaum,
David chaum, was, you know...
Everybody in
the cypherpunk movement
at one point or another,
they've said,
"well, he must have been
satoshi."
They've all come out
and denied it.
Probably somebody
who started out in the '90s,
in California,
with the cypherpunks.
Somebody who was very,
very good at cryptography
who understands encryption,
and has done a wonderful job
of just separating bitcoin from
anything that can identify him.
I think for bitcoin's sake,
that continuing anonymity
of satoshi
has ended up being
a really good thing,
because people who
have gotten involved in it
have been able to write
their own ideas and dreams
onto this technology,
and there was nobody
there to say,
"no, that's not
what I meant."
In the early, early days,
the first group was
really just a bunch of
more or less
tech-minded coders.
Then you had the libertarians
come on board,
who saw it through
a political lens,
I'm excited to be
a little bit of a part of it
with allowing
and accepting bitcoin.
And then you had these
two groups working together
and they overlapped too,
and the timing was very good
because the existing system
was in utter disrepair.
It was like a match
to a pile of wood
with gasoline
poured on top of it.
And the whole thing kind of
really goes viral and takes off,
and then you have the suits,
the vc money,
and it was very small at first,
just a couple of guys
out in silicon valley
who ran into bitcoin guys
at coffee houses
and you started having
this meshing of conversations.
Once silicon valley
gets on board,
that whole dynamic
starts to take off.
So now you have
the tech-minded coders,
the libertarians,
the counter-culture people,
the vc, silicon valley,
and you have this entire
great mishmash of people
coming together.
You had a network effect.
The more people
that got involved,
and the more it grew and it
really started growing on itself.
And in 2013 especially,
you literally see
this thing mushroom.
The thing was just growing,
growing and growing and growing
as more and more people
got involved.
I think most bitcoin
companies at the time
knew that a big part
of the market for bitcoins
was people buying drugs
on silk road
who needed bitcoins to do that.
The big bang moment for bitcoin
was the silk road.
What Ross ulbricht did
by creating the silk road
was he took this
by no means common
but usable cryptocurrency
called bitcoin
and he married it
with a streamlined,
workable user interface
that was a free market
that could sell anything.
What would happen
truly free to trade
what they wanted to?
Ross did have
an extremely radical
libertarian viewpoint,
and really wanted to experiment
with using technology
to create free markets
for people.
What Ross ulbricht did is a
combination of Tor and bitcoin.
That was the "aha" moment
that Ross must have had.
The silk road was
basically the fruition
of all the cypherpunk dreams,
the crypto-anarchists' utopia
that they had imagined
in the '90s,
you know, was real now.
This was a perfectly,
in theory, anonymous website,
with perfectly, in theory,
anonymous money
used to by any contrabands
imaginable.
The silk road website is a
particular headache for authorities.
It's a anonymous
online marketplace
where people sell drugs
that are posted to customers
all over the world.
Cyber investigators, you know,
when there's a crime
can kind of trace you back
because you have an ip address.
It's like a telephone number,
so if you call another computer
that ip address is tracked.
On Tor, that's taken away,
because your information
hops from computer
to computer to computer
so there's no way to trace you
back to your original one.
Tor is an anonymous system,
so if you use the Tor browser,
which it has a browser.
You can go to Tor
and download their browser,
you can browse with
some degree of security.
So that's great for plugging
your banking information
into a site
so you don't get hacked.
The other component of Tor,
which has similar uses,
is called Tor hidden services.
Tor hidden services
is actually, to put it simply,
a url that doesn't have ".Com"
on the end of it.
It has ".Onion."
And that is its own little space
where you can create websites
and you could freely transact
without oversight or regulation.
People put websites on there
that are outside of
law enforcement's view.
There's hackers for hire,
there's malware,
there's credit card
dump services
there's a whole bunch of them.
Chris tarbell has ended up
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