Beuys Page #5

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to retire from active life.

When you say, "Maybe it would be better

if I went to Australia."

That's not a joke.

Is it?

You mustn't retire.

I'm not going to. I'm not going to retire.

I'm not going to retire.

But if at some time I...

It really would be a historical disaster.

That's why I'm not going to retire.

I'm not going to retire at all.

But you're bound to say at some point,

"Kiss my ass!

I'm going to wander dreamily

around the world."

What would the alternative be?

The alternative would be to carry on

in a form where, to a certain extent,

you're well-known.

To stubbornly carry on

doing the same thing.

I can see Beuys's loneliness

and his incredible sensitivity,

his porousness, his...

That...

That he was always inside his wound,

inside his hurt.

And that makes you admire

this incredible strength even more,

which he used as an antidote,

his courage as well.

Mr. Beuys,

I don't want to mention your hat...

Mr. Beuys, you've now...

Mr. Beuys, what is art?

Beuys!

ONLY 2,272 DAYS

UNTIL THE END OF CAPITALISM

- Yes.

- Yes.

How to topple capitalism,

that's how I'd have to put it.

Yes.

LAST WARNING TO DEUTSCHE BAN K:

NEXT TIME WELL NAME NAMES AND IDEAS

- Mr. Beuys, are you a radical?

- Yes, I am.

A famous radical. Is that possible?

It would be good if radicals became famous

and people listened to them.

In '83, the Greens were going full steam

and for the first time

they had a real chance

of getting into parliament.

And no one understood why he kept

going on about the term "capital."

It was much too lofty,

even for the Greens.

And now I want to get

to the heart of the matter.

Because whenever a democratic process

dares touch the actual nerve

of societal change,

the power relations around money

undermine every attempt at democracy.

The power of money mus! be broken.

Today money is a tradable commodity

you can speculate with IT.

So in me economic sphere,

money is an entity

that shouldn't be a commodity

bu! because R is a commodity,

this character must be brought into line

with the whole of democracy.

We went to the conference

and didn't think anything of it.

We thought...

Because Beuys had been

the top candidate three years before.

And you sensed immediately

that the atmosphere was really peculiar.

Who's still interested in you?

- Who do you still provoke...?

- Quiet, please!

Could you be quieter, please?

And some of the delegates

really went after him.

"Beuys, go off and play with your fat!"

Or...

"Beuys, you're costing us votes."

Please be quiet in the hall,

or we can't hear anything up here.

We quickly figured out that the candidates

had already been selected.

It was clear he wasn't one of them.

He was being dropped by his own people.

There's no point in me standing up

in front of someone,

or in front of lots of people...

without there being a question.

What's the point

of just foisting an issue on people?

Because they might not

even be interested in it.

I have to speak in a way that I know

that there's something

inside of the people,

that there's a question

that I can try to answer, that I can try

to solve together with them.

It's actually a joint task.

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