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open session tomorrow.
I will act in our
client's best interest,
state perpetrates murder.
Another murder is what
I'm trying to prevent.
They make it
look like suicide.
Or an accident.
They got Simon
and they nearly got me.
Oh, for goodness sake,
Martin.
I don't want them to have
a reason to get to you.
Anything else?
No.
(CHEERING)
FEMALE REPORTER:
This morningEvidence the defense want disclosed,
but which the prosecution say
must be withheld to protect our
country's security interests.
The defense will present their
case, and the judge will decide
which evidence can be
put in front of a jury.
As such, rumor has it, some
will be facing questions
from Mr. Erdogan's
special advocate,
Claudia Simmons-Howe.
BAILIFF:
All rise.We are listed for both
a closed and open session
to review the evidence
in Mr. Erdogan's case.
He's charged with murder,
conspiracy to murder,
conspiracy to cause explosions
and possession of explosives.
Before we begin,
we need to establish
the order of
today's proceedings.
I would suggest, My Lord, that
we begin with the open material.
And the prosecution? I have
no preference, My Lord.
But I always believe
these matters are best left
to the wisdom and
discretion of the bench.
We will begin with the closed material.
My Lord...
Prepare the court
for a closed session.
Mr. Rose.
Wigs off.
We are now in closed.
The Crown argue
that this evidence
should not be disclosed
to the defense
in the interests of
national security.
It will be presented for the
benefit of the Special Advocate.
Miss Simmons-Howe, I understand
that you wish to cross-examine
whom we will call Witness X.
I do, My Lord.
Witness X, you are
the Security Service
Chief of Operations
in the Erdogan case?
I am.
DEVLIN:
You all right?
(SIGHS)
Taking it personally,
are you now?
You mustn't. Nobody
listens to me, either.
That's life.
I just get on with it.
Think happy thoughts.
Will you confirm to the Special
Advocate the identity of the informant?
The informant is Mr. Erdogan's
14-year-old son, Emir.
ANDREW:
Could you tellthe court why you believe
it would harm
national security
to reveal his identity
in open court?
MELISSA:
Following Mr. Erdogan'sarrest, we discovered that Emir
had been hacking his father's
computer for nearly three years.
He has detailed knowledge
of communications
between his father
and significant people,
known and unknown,
in Istanbul,
Berlin and in Pakistan.
More importantly, he knows many
of the passwords his father used.
But why do you not
want the boy's role
in the arrest of his father to
be revealed in open session?
Because he's asked
for absolute assurances
that he will not be called
to give evidence in court.
So he has expressly
requested anonymity?
that he will remain anonymous,
he's refusing to reveal
key pieces of information
that he's gathered from
his father's computer files.
Are we sure
he's telling the truth?
Small amounts of information
he's already given
have proven sound
and extremely valuable.
And, presumably, if it were
to be revealed in open court
that Emir informed
on his father and worse,
that he's now in a position to
provide the Security Services
with invaluable
information,
there is a strong probability
that his life would be in danger?
Good game?
What?
Last night.
Looked like great goals.
Yeah, yeah.
That's more like it.
Excuse me a moment.
CLAUDIA:
Witness X...I have some questions.
This is an important case
for MI5, would you say?
It involves national security.
Of course.
And I must say that importance
has been made very clear to me,
both professionally
and even personally.
Your agents work very hard.
I'll be sure to pass on
your appreciation.
CAMERON:
Miss Simmons-Howe.Does all the information on
Farroukh Erdogan's activities
come from his son?
Yes.
And prior to the bombing, there was no
contact between MI5 and the defendant?
That's an odd question.
Nevertheless, it has been asked.
We had no reason to link Mr. Erdogan
to a plan to blow up Borough Market.
What about MI6?
Not as far as I'm aware, and I'm
sure I would be, if they did.
Isn't it the truth
that you don't want
Emir Erdogan's identity
to be disclosed
because you're afraid of what he
might reveal about his father,
afraid that he might reveal
something of his father's history?
What history?
Why did Erdogan return
to London from Germany?
You spoke to him.
But he wouldn't
answer my questions.
Who paid for his ticket,
for example?
Perhaps you asked
the wrong questions.
Or perhaps he had
been told not to answer.
Wait. What do you mean?
You are claiming
that Farroukh Erdogan
was what was known
as a "clean skin"?
Yes.
That he was not considered
to be a person of interest?
No.
You had
no surveillance on him?
He was not on your radar? No.
You were not handling him
as an MI5 agent?
Are you familiar with
the name Mussi Kartal?
That name is new to me.
Miss Simmons-Howe, where is this
line of questioning leading?
My Lord, to answer that,
I need an adjournment.
(STUTTERS) A what?
I wish to question the boy,
Emir Erdogan, here in court.
That boy holds the key to unlock
information that may save lives.
I believe he will
support the case
that Farroukh Erdogan
was known to MI5,
that he was
working with MI5,
and that, in fact, he was working
for MI5 at the time of the bombing.
I believe Emir Erdogan has evidence
that will support that claim.
I believe his testimony
will expose the malpractice
and incompetence of
the Security Service,
and demonstrate that his father
was nothing more than a pawn
in the hands of MI5,
who used him to snare
genuine terrorists
in an operation
that went tragically
and murderously wrong
for 120 people on that day.
Evidence?
I believe so.
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)
MALE REPORTER:
Just fiveseconds of your time, sir.
Mr. Rose,
can I ask you a question?
Five seconds of your time.
CAMERON:
Mr. Altman,bring Emir Erdogan to court.
I will question him myself.
10:
00 a.m. tomorrow.My Lord...
Tomorrow, 10:
00 a.m.Miss Simmons-Howe, where is she?
You just missed her, sir.
Nothing but
a civil servant, right?
I don't know what just happened
in there, but whatever did...
Please wait.
Claudia was just
trying to do her job.
We're simply trying
to defend our client.
And you know this because
he worked for you.
He was inside the cell.
He didn't tell you what
happened, and you assume
that this means that
he deliberately duped you.
But they could have crossed him as well.
There is doubt.
You lawyers, you like your
f***ing doubt, don't you?
Well, I can't use doubt.
I can only use certainty.
I need certain knowledge
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