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to report my experience,

I felt that I had to tell the truth.

I could not keep silent.

There's no way he survives this day.

JOE:

Professor, before I begin my questioning,

I notice that you have

a number of people here.

You've got friends or family

joining you here today?

- My family hasn't arrived.

- (INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS)

They... I'm sorry.

They are here, but they're in the hall.

We will make room for your family.

- It's a very large family, Senator.

- (CHUCKLES)

Well, let's...

Can we open those doors, please,

- get Professor Hill's family in here?

- (DOOR OPENING)

If we can clear some of these chairs here.

If you're not essential,

maybe you can clear over here.

Love you, baby.

(INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS)

JOE:
Here you go.

What's the backroom conversation

at the White House?

I'm just speculating here, Peter.

It isn't over, and I don't know,

but the sense that you get here,

although they won't say it publicly,

is that they're pretty gloomy.

By all means, let's get loving close-ups

of the salt-of-the-earth parents.

That's not prejudicial.

Is the President watching?

He's still behind the guy? Okay, yeah.

Just making sure. All right.

(LINE DISCONNECTS)

I had to ask.

JOE:
I must ask you, Professor,

to explain again

and more fully, if you would,

the behavior that you have alleged,

that you say went beyond, uh, professional,

um, business practices.

Did all that behavior take place at work?

Yes, it did.

And just in your own words, as best you can,

can you tell the Committee

where each of these incidents

that you mentioned in your opening statement

took place specifically?

Well, I recall specifically

that the incident about the Coke can

occurred in his office at the EEOC.

What incident was that?

The incident with regard to the Coke can

that's spelled out in my statement.

Okay, one more time again for me, please.

The, (SIGHS), uh, incident involved him

going to his desk...

Getting up from a work table,

going to his desk,

looking at a can, and saying,

"Who put pubic hair on my Coke?"

And were there other incidents

that took place at the office?

I recall at least one instance

in his office at the EEOC

where he brought up the substance

or the content of pornographic material.

And again for the record,

what was the content of...

What the hell is he doing?

Does he think

people want to hear this trash again?

...to an individual who had, um,

a very large penis

and used the name that he was referred to

in the pornographic material.

- Um...

- JOE:
Do you recall what that was?

ANITA:
I do.

The name that was referred to

was Long Dong Silver.

Jesus Christ Almighty.

JOE:
Can you tell the Committee here

what was the most embarrassing

of all these alleged incidents?

ANITA:
I think the one

that was the most embarrassing

was his descriptions of pornography

involving women with large breasts

engaged in a variety of sex

with different people or animals.

That was the thing

that embarrassed me the most

and made me feel the most humiliated.

(CROWD MURMURING)

Professor, I'm going to yield the floor now

to my good friend from Pennsylvania,

Senator Specter.

Professor Hill, you testified

that you drew an inference

that Judge Thomas might want you

to look at pornographic films,

but you told the FBI specifically that

he never asked you to watch the films.

Is that correct?

He never said,

"Let's go to my apartment and watch films."

He did say,

"You ought to see this material."

But when you testified, as I wrote it down,

"We ought to look at

pornographic movies together,"

that was an expression

of what was in your mind.

That was the inference that I drew, yes.

What with his pressing me

for social engagements, yes.

But the fact is flatly he never asked you

to look at pornographic movies with him?

With him?

- No, he did not.

- No, he did not.

Professor Hill, you said you took it to mean

that Judge Thomas

wanted to have sex with you,

but, in fact, he never did ask you

to have sex, correct?

No, he never asked me to have sex.

He did continually pressure me

to go out with him.

He would not accept my explanation

as being valid.

You think she should be more emotional?

If she were, we'd be saying

she should be less emotional.

All right, all three networks

are going to stay live

as long as we're in session,

so if we can keep her talking

for a few more hours,

Clarence will have prime time all to himself.

Call the Committee. Let them know.

Professor Hill, what went

through your mind, if anything,

on whether you ought

to come forward at that stage?

If you had, you would have stopped this man

from being head of the EEOC.

What went through your mind? (CHUCKLES)

How could you allow

this sort of reprehensible conduct

to go on right in the headquarters

without doing something about it?

I can only say that when I made the decision

to just withdraw from the situation

and not press a claim against him,

I may have shirked a duty,

a responsibility that I had.

And to that extent,

I confess that I am very sorry

that I didn't do something or say something.

But at the time, that was my best judgment.

It may have been a poor judgment,

but it was not dishonest.

It was not a completely unreasonable

choice given the circumstances.

MALE REPORTER:

I think it really does underscore

the basic difference how men and women

look at this issue.

I've had a number of occasions.

Did I report them? No.

And for the same reasons you've heard

every other woman in this country state.

There has been disclosed in the public

the records of certain telephone logs.

You've been quoted

in The Washington Post as saying,

"Ms. Hill called the telephone logs garbage."

Have you seen the records

of the telephone logs, Professor Hill?

Yes, I have.

Do you deny the accuracy of

these telephone logs?

No, I do not.

Then you now concede that

you had called Judge Thomas 11 times?

I do not deny the accuracy of these logs.

So they're not garbage.

Senator, what I said was,

the issue is garbage.

Those telephone messages do not indicate

that somehow I was pursuing something more

than a cordial relationship.

A professional relationship.

Each one of those calls was made

in a professional context.

Several of those calls involved one incident

where I was trying to act

on behalf of another group.

So the issue that is being created with

the telephone calls, yes, indeed is garbage.

If what you say this man

said to you occurred,

why in God's name

when he left his position of power

or status or authority over you...

Why in God's name would you ever speak

to a man like that the rest of your life?

That's a very good question.

And I am sure that I cannot answer it

to your satisfaction.

That is one of the things

that I have tried to do here today,

I have suggested

that I was afraid of retaliation.

I was afraid of damage

to my professional life.

I believed that... You have to understand

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