Crumb Page #6

The whole place smells like pee.

Don't say that on the film.

She doesn't want people in the house.

The next thing my mother knows,

this whole crew is filing in the door.

Oh, no pictures!

No way, Jose she says.

Terry says, No, we're going upstairs.

We're gonna do it in Charles' room.

Of course then she got into it, and

after a while, you couldn't shut her up.

She talked on.

She chattered on and on.

It was awful.

- What year is this? 1970.

- I'd just met you.

This is when I first met you

in 1969.

That's me. I remember that.

- This doesnt look like me.

- You're right. Let me touch it up.

The nose is too bulbous.

The eyes are too far apart also.

It's too late now, really.

This was 18 years ago.

- God, it just...

- How about this drawing of you?

I remember we were in this restaurant.

This is ridiculous. Oh, good.

- I'm still rolling.

- She almost fell off the roof.

But she can't see the notebook.

That's me?

That's you with your hair dryer.

There's Terry.

That's me.

I like that drawing.

That's one of the few drawings I liked.

So you're going to sell these books

and I don't get a percentage?

This whole case of sketchbooks...

I'm giving to this guy

for a house in France.

I had a lot of drawings here.

What do I get out of this?

- What drawings?

- Several. I drew that!

- No, Aline drew those.

- You sure?

- I drew that.

- No, Aline drew those.

Really?

That's Aline when I first knew her.

You went from this page,

where I was on it...

and like two pages later, it's Aline?

- How did that happen?

- It was a crazy period.

That's disgusting.

- That's horrible.

- That's you and that's Aline.

Oh, Jesus.

You really hated women then.

Do you think it's improved since?

Yeah. I hate them

a little bit less now.

Guys like me, I like certain kinds

of women's legs.

- I'm not masochistic.

- But you don't like feet!

- You're not heavily into feet.

- I'm not fixated, but I can get into it.

I can have an orgasm playing

with someone's foot.

It's not a real narrow fixation.

It's that the way the mind of the person

whos interested in legs and feet...

is very different from the mind of

the person who's interested in breasts.

Breast men tend to be aggressive,

outgoing, athletic.

- People who like the lower body...

- She's got these types categorized.

People who like the lower body

tend to be frightened, introverted.

It all has to do with being down on the

floor when you were a scared child...

and looking up at

that big tower of Mommy.

What's down there? The feet and legs.

That's where the security is.

Women go around feeling victimized

by men all the time.

They feel like the men

have the power...

and the area where women can take

the power from men is through sex.

Men have that fetishistic twist to their

minds because they have that ability...

to concentrate on one thing

to the exclusion of all else...

and can really be manipulated sexually,

where women are not as susceptible.

You are so frightening. Jesus!

Women are susceptible to power.

That's what I find.

Any display of power and,

Oh, he's so interesting!

Who's that man who's being so obnoxious

and arrogant? He's so interesting.

I'm a career pornographer.

I've been at it for 16 years.

It was what I was always destined for.

I always loved pornography.

I took my birthday money

when I turned 18 because I was legal...

and went to the adult bookstore

and bought pornography.

I went through some other jobs,

but always sexualized them...

so finding pornography

was just right.

I'm the editor of Jugs, Leg Show

and Bust Out right now.

I was also the creator

of Big Butt magazine.

We've arranged with Robert

to do a photo shoot today...

which will appear

in Leg Show magazine.

Were going to have four or five women

who we think Robert will like...

but there's never any telling

with Robert Crumb.

Here's a girl I wish I could've gotten

for the Crumb shoot.

This is a mother-daughter

dominance team from L.A.

Mother taught me to smother,

is this girl's motto.

We're doing this

for the Christmas issue.

The mother's wearing a red outfit.

We wanted them to do something festive.

He's a person that would rather be a

brain in a jar that a person in a body.

Basically, we both focus

on my body sexually.

Robert's not too oriented

towards normal sex.

There wasn't much in the way

of normal sex in our relationship...

but lots of piggyback rides

and wrestling around.

He liked to sit on my shoe a lot.

He never takes his shirt off.

He likes to not exist.

Robert is an admitted

compulsive masturbator.

He masturbates four or five times a day.

He told me he masturbates

to his own comics.

I'm sure Picasso did.

I think probably, yeah, some do.

But I don't think many artists...

give you such a wide range

of masturbatory possibility as Crumb.

That is, if you like

what he likes.

Does he do that?

Robert doesn't exaggerate anything

in his comics.

The woman are exactly the way

he wants them...

and he accurately portrays himself...

as the skinny, bad posture,

myopic man he is.

Some people wonder if he doesnt

exaggerate the size of his penis...

which appears awfully big in the comics.

Robert does not exaggerate anything.

He is endowed with one

of the biggest penises in the world.

Why do I have my particular

sexual proclivities?

I don't know.

Ask a psychiatrist.

I don't know what it's about.

I always thought Robert

was just kidding about them.

You thought I was kidding?

That he was trying to be funny.

Yeah, that's right.

I couldn't imagine how anyone

could be serious about these things.

It was complete chaos,

this relationship.

The crying and fighting

started soon, actually.

You cried the third time

I'd been with you.

What's so horrible about crying?

Why is that painful to you?

Oh, my God! How can I deal with it?

What should I do? She's crying.

So you're saying that 20 years later

you still have no idea...

what you were doing

that could've contributed to that?

No, I guess I don't.

It was confusing because

he was totally irresponsible.

He would call and say, I love you,

miss you, can't wait to see you.

He was supposed to be 200 miles away.

He'd say, I'll see you

in a week or two.

I'd go out to buy groceries two hours

later and see him with another woman.

Then he'd wonder why I kicked him

or got mad.

Do you think I'm sadistic?

He would always act

like he was passively a victim.

I used to call it his

Ashley Wilkes routine...

that he would pull...

where he was just this

passive victim of circumstance...

in other people's desires.

When really he was just trying

to get away with whatever he could...

and walking all over people.

I walked all over people?

Like who? You?

You think you were a good guy,

a nice boyfriend to me at the time.

I think I'm not a very romantic person,

that's all.

I don't think I've ever actually

been in love.

I have many letters where you said

I love you hundreds of times.

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