Deep Web Page #3

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it doesn't matter if they have

the force of the authority

behind everything that they do.

They cannot solve that math problem.

This movement is not about

the destruction of law.

This movement is not about

the destruction of law.

It is about the

construction of law.

These are guys

who want to create

encryption tools that everybody

can use. It's not just for the elite.

It's... it's trying to shift the

way that the internet works

to provide secrecy and anonymity

and privacy to everyone,

you know, so like, um, it's

a much more populist movement.

There is a community

of people in the security

and cryptography space

who want to live in a world

where the government cannot

record their emails,

cannot listen to

their telephone calls,

cannot see who they're

spending time with.

And they're trying

to build tools.

They're trying to build

protocols and services

that can facilitate

that kind of anonymous

and private exchange

of information.

I actually think this all comes down

to wanting to live a free life.

And the recognition which really

predates all technology,

that an observed life is not

a completely free life,

that a zone of privacy

is just a core human value.

And the technology to me

is just an incarnation

of those basic human values.

And I think that the people who

are trying to build currencies

that are free of tracking

and government control

and technologies that let you

have a private conversation

and those kinds of things are

just people who are seeing that

the technology can both enable

and disable that space.

There are more cypherpunks

than ever before.

They want to entirely cripple the

government's ability to enforce law.

They want cryptography to make the

rules instead of law enforcement.

Cody Wilson is a crypto-anarchist best

known for developing the Liberator,

a 3D printable gun, that was downloaded

100,000 times in two days.

When a group of baby boomers are told,

okay now 3D printers will print guns,

they can do nothing but say,

"Well, it's been nice living in

the world I used to know. "

We want to question the very foundation,

evacuate the very foundation

that this order, moral, ethical,

political, is founded on.

To see beyond good and evil and to

allow something else to happen.

This is where the figure of DPR

is so interesting to me.

Like is he a liberal? Like is he

a Misesian like he says he is?

Oh, he believes in Libertarian

market principles,

and you know man against

the state and all these...

these principles of freedom and axioms of...

Or... or is he someone else?

Like... like who I hope he is or someone

like I would try to hope to be,

who's just looking for

a way, a mechanism,

to help peek beyond good

and evil a little bit.

And is he more enthusiastic

about what he's...

what he's allowed to be opened

up, the doors he's opening.

Of course, there will be a

dark side to the dark web.

And if we want to enable this...

this true crypto-anarchic future,

anyone who's working on that,

I think, has to reckon with

the fact that they're going to

be enabling really nasty things

along with this kind of information freedom

revolution that they're taking part in.

By August 2012,

business was booming.

The Silk Road had become a thriving,

anonymous and unregulated black market.

The internet being

used in this way,

posed a major threat

to the government,

- greater perhaps than selling drugs.

- Even as a... a law enforcement officer,

I still wouldn't know where to

go and buy crack on the streets

or buy heroin, but I do know

how to go online and find it.

It's downloading some software and,

and the next thing you know

you're there and you can purchase

a service or drugs very easily.

Since when does a teenager become

obsessed with the daily mail delivery?

Fidgeting and pacing made

this Fisher's mom suspicious.

So when her family's mail

arrived, she grabbed it

and found a cartoon DVD box

addressed to her son

with something extra...

a package of white crystals.

So she confronted her 14-year-old,

and both their lives changed forever.

I don't think anybody really

cared in law enforcement

until Senator Schumer went, "Oh, my God,

we've gotta do something about this. "

Today I'm calling on the DEA

and the Department of Justice

to immediately shut this site

down before more damage is done.

Because if you think about

what law enforcement

at the federal level has

to do to even start a case,

I don't think this case

would have been started

if it wasn't for some

political impetus by, you know,

a senator saying,

"We need to look into this. "

The FBI today shut down

what it's calling

the most sophisticated

internet site

in the business of

selling hard drugs,

including heroin,

cocaine and LSD.

Anyone trying to log

on to the website today

found this notice:

"Shut down by the FBI. "

It was a sophisticated

electronic

smokescreen and it took federal

agents almost two years.

They were able to

infiltrate the site,

but they made some of these purchases

themselves using undercover identities.

The secretive

Dread Pirate Roberts

was arrested in the most

unlikely of places,

this local public library in this

San Francisco neighborhood.

The FBI seized $3.6 million

of Bitcoin's biggest haul

in its five-year history.

When the criminal complaint

first appeared in October,

it describes this 29-year-old

kid named Ross Ulbricht.

Not only do they say that he has

run this billion-dollar plus

black market conspiracy and they

accuse him of drug trafficking

and money laundering and somehow

computer hacking charges,

as well, which is something that I had

never associated with the Silk Road.

But then also in this criminal complaint

there is outlined his plot to

pay for the murders of a potential

informant and a blackmailer.

It seems at least

one Silk Road user

threatened to reveal the identities

of thousands of others.

So investigators say Ulbricht tried to

execute a Murder-For-Hire on that user,

offering $150,000 to a would-be

hit man because...

It threw me for a loop.

It was really not the Dread Pirate Roberts

that I had ever imagined.

This connection between Ross Ulbricht,

who plenty of evidence suggests

that he was involved in the Silk Road.

They, after all, seized his laptop

while he was logged in to the Silk Road.

He was caught red-handed. But these

two personalities, these two personas,

do seem to be almost

schizophrenic.

It's so difficult to imagine

that they are the same person.

And so the FBI's whole case

is based on the idea

if they can show that Dread

Pirate Roberts is Ross Ulbricht?

Right. That's... that's

the most important part, right?

Because he was trying to hide

his identity on the site as well.

So the first thing they're gonna

have to do is definitively link him

as the person

who runs the site.

Oh, man, it was like it

was yesterday, actually.

I was on my computer and,

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