DEFCON: The Documentary Page #2

You know, it's not at the con, there's

no crazy music, it's just a BBQ.

Ever since I was in town around DEF CON

10 or 11 you see those signs in the

airport, "Come Shoot a Machine Gun."

Which, you know, is fine for me,

I've done that, but a lot of my friends

said, "Man, I'd love to do that!"

Well, I said, let's just go out in the desert,

I'm sure we can find a nice group rate, and

and we'll shoot out in a sand pit, and

everyone had a blast, and they said

"Boy! This was great, you

want to do this again?"

So now, there's just this well

known, public shooting spot,

way out on the Lovell Canyon

Rd, where anyone can go and

shoot what they want, as long as they

police up the area. And we use it and it's

again, much like DEF CON itself,

getting popular and growing.

Now we have canopies and tables rented, that I arrange.

There's a small per head fee,

just to cover that. We had a hundred people on

the line last year. We've got damn near that

many registered this year. We're going to

stay safe and see what we can make happen!

Can everyone hear me, over

the reports, over the berm?

All firearms are always what? Loaded!

They are always loaded!

Nothing is ever an unloaded firearm.

You always point the firearm where?

Where? In a safe direction.

In a safe direction.

Yes. The key point being, not just being

what is your target, but what is beyond it!

The hacker community, you can never put a single hat

on anybody, but there's a libertarian undercurrent to

a lot of our membership, so being able to treat

guns as, well, that's this piece of equipment

if you use it the right way, it's great.

It percolates through most minds.

So, you get the occasional raised eyebrow, but

half the time that's the person who's, like,

"I'm gonna go see exactly what you think is so

fun," and they're out there shooting a cannon, or

an automatic rifle, and they

say, "Boy, I get this."

I think it was the year when it was at the Aladdin,

and we'd forgotten to sort of clean up our

room, or we didn't think the maid was gonna show up as early as

they did, and we had gone off to breakfast, and we came back

and the maid had been in the room, and cleaned

the room, and organized all of the drugs!

So there's a little pile of acid, and a little

pile of ecstacy, and some other pills, and they're

in nice, neat little piles, and everybody's like,

"Well, I guess things are different in Las Vegas."

You've got to put the

convention in a 24 hour city.

You know, it's got to be like a New York,

or Vegas, or maybe a San Francisco, because

hackers get bored, and there's got to be something for them to do. And I

saw what happened when you had a lot of bored hackers running around.

You know, a lot of activities

in the computer underground

would happen after midnight. That's

just the way it is. So, you know,

the fact that people can move around,

and not be noticed as much being

a group moving around at midnight,

that kind of added to the appeal.

I'm big on privacy. Nevada still

respects people's personal privacy.

You know, your hotel room is

considered your domicile.

It sounded fun... you know, just a bunch

of computer people, it just seemed like

my group was in Vegas and it sounded

like a really, really fun time.

So, that, you know, whole

underworld connotation of it all,

was very attractive to me.

So I feel like there's gonna be a stream of people really dedicated,

like, "We're gonna be first! We're gonna be first in line!"

I wanna make sure I get a badge. That was my biggest concern since

my first DEF CON, and I wanna make sure I walk away with a badge.

We're all DEF CON virgins, we gotta pop

that DEF CON cherry. Get those badges!

How many hours do you have

before you get your badges?

At least nine hours now?

Ok, and that's $20. So, that's

$20 plus $20 tip for you.

Thank you very much! Yes, we drink. Good!

What are we drinking? Stop recording, please!

We've got pizza. Pizza is GOOD! Alright.

Jet-Lag has sunk in. It looks like

he's using a pizza box for a pillow.

We will not abandon our posts.

This is my first DEF CON badge! INTERVIEWER: Now what

made you decided you were going to come to DEF CON?

My husband's work decided to send him, and

I started going through all of the videos

that they had for DEF CON 19, and I started looking

at that and going, "Oh, this is really cool!"

This is the 20th DEF CON, and I've been wanting to do it for years,

and it was just one of those things that just sort of lined up,

all the moons lined up perfectly.

Definitely heard a lot about the con. It's a somewhat

affordable con, and there's lots of technical discussions.

A whole bunch of really smart people that probably know

more than I do, most of them, so I hope to learn something.

You know, an opportunity to hang out with

those people who really know what's going on.

You know, it's too

enticing to miss out on.

I thought this would be an amazing place

to just meet really intelligent people.

So, now I'm here and I'm really excited!

To meet a lot of interesting people and

learn a lot and have a lot of fun at once.

It's kind of, you know,

a big congregation of

people who live anonymously

online, get to actually

socialize in person, and

not have to worry about,

you know, revealing their identity.

Well, I've read all kinds of dire

warnings about using anything

that's potential hackable, and

nearly anything is hackable.

I was told to take the

battery out of my phone.

You know, I've got a check list

sort of in my mind, you know, kilt,

colored hair, drinking before 10am

I haven't seen quite just yet...

Every single device in the world has some

kind of computer in it, and they all

have vulnerabilities one way or

another and this is information of

what those vulnerabilities could be and how

to fix them and improve it for the future.

Are you the teacher?

- Yes. You are the teacher, and this is your first DEF CON?

Yes. INTERVIEWER: And you thought to

take a pack of neophyte students into

Las Vegas to go to a hacking conference?

- Yes. INTERVIEWER: Do you have tenure?

Rule Number One:
Follow

the 3-2-1 rule. DAILY.

And please bear in mind,

these are minimums,

at a minimum, three hours of sleep.

Two meals. One shower.

By tomorrow afternoon, the

pungent and stank aroma

of many DEF CON attendees will waft through

the air and hit you like a Mack Truck.

So, remember, you plus deodorant

equals everybody wins!

I, like many people here, will

not remember your real name.

There are lots of Steves, Jeffs, Chrises, and Bills, but

maybe only one, maybe two, with your unique handle.

Hopefully, you've picked a good and unique

handle to avoid conflicts in the namespace.

Create a good handle for yourself,

before someone creates it for you.

So I've got a question. Who

here is from other countries?

Wow.

That's impressive, thank you for coming

all the way to join us, you guys,

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