Denial Page #2
GLORIA (V.O.)
Everyone, it’s my pleasure to
introduce the holder of the Dorot
Chair in Jewish and Holocaust
studies at Emory University, and
author of Denying the Holocaust:
the Growing Assault on Truth and
Memory, Deborah Lipstadt.
The sound of applause. It’s DAVID IRVING outside.
16 INT. AUDITORIUM. DAY 16
DEBORAH is at the microphone, well into her speech.
DEBORAH:
We have to accept there’ll be many
reasons why people may be deniers.
When you look closely, they often
have some agenda which they don’t
own up to. In any field, denial may
just be a pick to undo the lock and
open the door to something else.
A girl MEG, 18, in the audience puts up her hand.
DEBORAH (CONT’D)
Yes?
MEG:
Somebody told me you don’t debate
with people who say the Holocaust
didn’t happen.
DEBORAH:
I don’t, it’s true. Like I don’t
talk to people who say Elvis is
alive.
There is laughter. The SECOND MAN deep in the audience looks
across to the FIRST MAN who is working the camera.
MEG:
Talking to people you don’t agree
with, that’s democracy, isn’t it?
It’s supposed to be a free country.
(MORE)
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MEG (CONT'D)
They’ve an opinion. So have you.
It’s cowardly not to talk to them.
DEBORAH:
You calling me a coward?
MEG:
Well...
Everyone is amused.
DEBORAH:
Let me tell you, I don’t see it
that way. You can have opinions
about the Holocaust. You can argue
about why it happened and how it
happened. But what I won’t do is
meet with anyone - anyone - who
says it didn’t happen. The
Holocaust happened. It happened.
That isn’t opinion. That’s fact. I
won’t debate fact. That way madness
lies.
At the back, DAVID IRVING slips in the door, unobserved. He
goes and sits. The SECOND MAN holds up his hand.
DEBORAH (CONT’D)
Yes?
SECOND MAN (AMERICAN)
In your book, why do you
continually denigrate the work of
David Irving? He’s a scholar, he’s
a fluent German speaker, he’s
discovered all sorts of primary
sources no-one else knew about...
DEBORAH:
To be honest, I don’t think I do
denigrate him. I just don’t think
about him that much. He’s not
important.
This last statement has been seen through the first MAN’S
video camera, and now the image whip-pans to the back of the
hall where IRVING is standing, hand raised.
IRVING:
Professor Lipstadt, I am right in
believing you are not a historian,
you are a professor of religion?
DEBORAH:
Well that isn’t quite the case. I
am a historian, a historian of
religion.
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IRVING:
Let me reveal something to you,
Professor. I am that David Irving
about whom you have been so rude.
People turn, amazed. DEBORAH, too, is taken aback.
IRVING (CONT’D)
Yes, I am he. And it puzzles me why
you think yourself qualified to
attack me, given that I have thirty
years’ experience in the archives,
and my books have been published by
some of the greatest publishing
houses in the world - Viking Press,
William Morrow, E.P. Dutton. I have
to conclude the reason you don’t
engage with people you disagree
with is because you can’t. And you
might learn some facts - facts,
Miss Lipstadt, which don’t suit
your opinions. Well? Well?
DEBORAH is seen through the viewfinder of the camera, in
grainy black and white, flustered, not knowing to react.
DEBORAH:
No. I won’t. I’ve said this. I
won’t debate. Not with deniers.
DEBORAH looks urgently across to GLORIA.
IRVING:
Today I’ve heard you telling lies
to students. You want gullible
students to believe that there are
mounds of documents which prove a
Holocaust. You even said that
Hitler ordered it. Well I’ve got a
thousand dollars here in my pocket,
and I’m happy to give that thousand
dollars to anyone - anyone - who
can show me a document which proves
that Hitler ordered the killing of
the Jews. A thousand dollars! Here
it is! A thousand!
IRVING is holding the money above his head. DEBORAH has gone
into panicked consultation with GLORIA, who has got up. A
couple of people have shouted at IRVING to sit down, but most
STUDENTS are enjoying him.
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IRVING (CONT’D)DEBORAH
Why don’t you tell the I’m sorry, but I’m going to
students who pays for you to have to put an end to this...
write your books, who I’m going to have to ask you
finances all these expensive to sit down... I’m not
trips you make round the willing to do this, I really
world? Let them know that, do have to ask you to be
why don’t you? You talk about quiet...
documents, I have a document
here. It’s an aerial
photograph of Auschwitz...
IRVING (CONT’D)
Professor Lipstadt not only won’t
debate, she calls security to stop
me debating.
DEBORAH has been forced to shout to make herself heard. He’s
reached into his shopping bag. People are running back and
forth, and an armed SECURITY MAN is approaching IRVING to
take his arm.
IRVING (CONT’D)
All right. But if anyone wants,
I’ll be signing my books after the
event. They’re free. Please, come
and get one.
IRVING sits down, still hissing and waving dollar bills. ‘A
thousand dollars! A thousand!” The SECURITY MAN backs off.
DEBORAH stands alone at the microphone. Silence at last.
DEBORAH:
Thank you. So.
17 INT. AUDITORIUM. DAY 17
The meeting is over. DEBORAH is sitting at the table with a
pile of books. No-one near. She looks across to where IRVING
has a line of admiring STUDENTS for whom he’s chattily
signing free books. The MAN with the video is disappearing
from the hall. An older woman, SHIRA picks up a book.
SHIRA:
I think you’re right. I think
you’re right not to speak to him.
DEBORAH:
Sure. Great tactic, isn’t it?
Worked brilliantly.
18 EXT. CAR. DAY 18
IRVING’s car speeds up on the on-ramp to I75 with signs to
Alabama and Florida. Whoosh of car by.
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19 INT. CAR. DAY 19
IRVING and the other MEN drive away, in high spirits. In the
back the MAN has the video camera, and hands it to IRVING. In
the eyepiece it plays back film of IRVING speaking
triumphantly over DEBORAH. Then IRVING freezes the image of
DEBORAH, flustered, floundering, lost for a response.
IRVING:
Perfect.
20 INT. AUDITORIUM. DAY 20
DEBORAH is thoughtful. She takes out her cellphone and starts
to dial.
21 INT. SEMINAR ROOM. EMORY. DAY 21
RACHEL BLOCH, 60s, frail, with a cane is standing in front of
40 casually dressed students - all backgrounds. DEBORAH is at
the side, mesmerized.
RACHEL:
I was fifteen years old when I
arrived at Auschwitz. That’s why I
was spared. I was young and strong.
There was soot in the air. You
could smell it. It smelled like
nothing on earth.
For a moment, she can’t go on. DEBORAH watches her. An image
flashes suddenly into her head.
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