Denial Page #4
it is, believe me, a very leaky
vessel indeed - then the whole
Holocaust campaign is in doubt.
DEBORAH freezes the image. Then, decisive, she gets up.
33 EXT. CAMPUS. EMORY COLLEGE. ATLANTA. DAY 33
DEBORAH walks across the busy lawn, The Mutt in tow. Everyone
else is lounging around, she alone is steely with purpose.
DEBORAH (O.S)
Holocaust denial rests essentially
on four basic assertions.
34 INT. SEMINAR ROOM. EMORY. DAY 34
DEBORAH is speaking with vigour to her class.
She points to the four ideas she has already pentelled in
large letters, and underlines them one by one.
She underlines 1. ‘Killings Not Systematic.’
DEBORAH:
That there was never any systematic
or organized attempt by the Nazis
to kill all of Europe’s Jews.
She underlines 2. ’Numbers Exaggerated.’
DEBORAH (CONT’D)
That the number killed was far
fewer than five or six million.
She underlines 3.‘Auschwitz not built for extermination.’
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DEBORAH (CONT’D)
That there were no gas chambers or
any specially built extermination
facilities.
She underlines 4. ‘Holocaust A Myth.’
DEBORAH (CONT’D)
That the Holocaust is therefore a
myth invented by Jews who use it to
get themselves financial
compensation and to advance the
fortunes of the state of Israel.
She then throws the pentel down and moves into the class like
a lawyer in court.
DEBORAH (CONT’D)
War, they say, is a bloody
business. There’s nothing special
about the Jews. Jews are not unique
in their suffering, they’re just
everyday casualties of war. What’s
the fuss?
DEBORAH looks as if genuinely asking that question. The
students are confused.
DEBORAH (CONT’D)
OK, and here’s another question:
How do we prove the Holocaust
happened? Seriously. I’m asking.
How do we prove it?
The class looks a little blank.
DEBORAH (CONT’D)
Not a single person in this room or
outside it has ever seen a
photograph of Jews in a gas
chamber. Why? Because the Germans
made sure that none were taken. So
how do we know so many were
murdered? Because you saw
Schindler’s List? I don’t think so.
DEBORAH waits a moment, her concern real.
DEBORAH (CONT’D)
What’s the proof? Where’s the
proof? And how strong is it?
35 INT. CANTEEN. EMORY. DAY 35
STAFF and STUDENTS lunching in the Tao of Chow, a huge grey
hall. DEBORAH, in grim mood, is in line with LIBBY,
collecting food. It’s all steam and clatter.
Full Blue Script // December 4th 2015 1616.
LIBBY:
I don’t understand. Why do you get
so worked up? Nine tenths of these
things don’t even get to court.
DEBORAH:
Oh is that right? You know about
this, do you? From what they’re
telling me, if I fail to answer his
challenge, if I give him a free
ride, Irving can go to the American
courts and get my property
attached. He can take my home.
LIBBY:
Oh, OK.
DEBORAH:
The man’s a liar and someone needs
to get out there and say so.
They go and sit down with their food.
LIBBY:
What I don’t get: why’s he chosen
you.
DEBORAH:
I have two essential qualifications
for Mr Irving. I’m a woman, and I’m
a Jew. He gets more bang for his
buck.
LIBBY:
Hang on, it is your book about
denial he’s objecting to?
DEBORAH:
Correct.
LIBBY:
You told me it sold 20 copies in
the UK last year.
DEBORAH:
21.
LIBBY:
Did you even mention Irving? What
did you say about him?
DEBORAH:
I called him ‘a Hitler partisan who
distorted evidence in order to
reach historically untenable
conclusions.’
The words are engraved on her memory. LIBBY is deadpan.
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LIBBY:
OK, well maybe you’d better get
lawyered up.
36 EXT. RESTAURANT. ATLANTA. DAY 36
DEBORAH’S car pulls up at the valet parking stand of a grand-
looking restaurant. She gets out.
37 INT. RESTAURANT. ATLANTA. DAY 37
ANTHONY JULIUS is sitting by himself making notes in a book
in upscale surroundings. He is 40, ascetic, and he looks out
of place among the upmarket, largely black clientele. He
looks up and sees DEBORAH through the window.
38 EXT. RESTAURANT. DAY (JULIUS POV) 38
DEBORAH standing by her car, gets a ticket from the valet.
She’s nervous and it shows in how she’s slightly over-dressed
for the meeting. She heads inside.
39 INT. RESTAURANT. DAY 39
JULIUS looks up, relieved.
DEBORAH:
Ah you must be Anthony Julius.
JULIUS:
And you must be Deborah Lipstadt.
DEBORAH:
It’s good of you to come all this
way.
JULIUS:
It’s nice to combine our meeting
with a lecture.
JULIUS puts his hand on the book. T.S. Eliot.
DEBORAH:
Anti-Semitism in the poetry of T.S.
Eliot?
JULIUS:
Correct.
DEBORAH:
I can’t wait. You’re not frightened
of the big boys, are you?
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JULIUS:
I try not to be.
They both smile.
JULIUS (CONT’D)
In fact I wondered if it was my
interest in anti-Semitism which
made you consider me to represent
you.
DEBORAH:
In fact not.
JULIUS:
Or whether it was the Diana thing.
DEBORAH:
No, as it happens, you were
recommended to me. Someone I know.
They said “You need a junkyard dog.
In England, that’s Anthony Julius.”
JULIUS:
A junkyard dog?
DEBORAH:
Someone ferocious in court.
JULIUS:
Oh, I’m afraid I don’t appear in
court. I prepare the case, I don’t
present it. In Britain, solicitor
and barrister are quite different
functions.
The crowd in the restaurant are having a good time.
DEBORAH:
‘The Diana thing’? I’m not sure
what that is.
JULIUS:
Diana? She’s the Princess of Wales.
DEBORAH:
Yes, I know that. It’s your
connection...
JULIUS:
Oh just, Diana wanted to divorce. I
acted for her.
DEBORAH:
You acted for her?
JULIUS:
Yes.
Full Blue Script // December 4th 2015 1919.
DEBORAH:
I don’t understand. I thought you
did defamation.
JULIUS:
You’re right. I put that point to
Diana myself. I said, I’m afraid
I’ve never handled a divorce case
before. She said ‘That’s all right,
Mr. Julius, I’ve never been
divorced before.’ Interesting
woman.
A WAITRESS appears.
JULIUS (CONT’D)
The crispy catfish. Is that a local
delicacy?
DEBORAH:
Fins and scales.
She gestures to say: not allowed. They both smile.
40 INT. RESTAURANT. DAY 40
Later in the meal. The restaurant is quieter and JULIUS and
DEBORAH have relaxed.
JULIUS:
I have to warn you: there’s a
reason Mr Irving is bringing the
case in London.
DEBORAH:
JULIUS:
It gives him an advantage. Over
here, if you’re accused of defaming
someone, then the burden of proof
lies with the accuser. It’s up to
them to prove what you said was
untrue. In England it’s the other
way round. It’s up to the defendant
to prove that it’s true.
DEBORAH:
Wait. I have to prove what I said
was true?
JULIUS:
Correct.
DEBORAH:
But that’s crazy.
Full Blue Script // December 4th 2015 2020.
JULIUS:
Nevertheless.
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