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[Kondelis]

Yeah, I-I never, uh, never

heard of anything.

Unt-, uh, uh, b-b...

There was some talk after the

fact of two of our players

being threatened, but again,

this was in the late spring,

I think early summer and I never

heard anything of the sort.

Now, again, a lot of things

surfaced after the fact, uh,

but this was never brought to

our attention before that.

[Kondelis]

That was after the fact.

[Kondelis]

Yeah, after everything.

[Kondelis]

[Kondelis]

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And again, it's all

after the fact.

Uh, I don't know how you...

[Kondelis]

Um, you know, uh...

[Kondelis]

Yeah, but I'm not sure what, uh,

what it has to do with anything.

[Kondelis]

Um, okay.

Well, I-I mean, I'll clarify it,

but a-a-again,

it didn't have anything to do

with-with my situation.

Um, uh, along about the,

uh, early part of June,

I had heard from some of the

players and they had

talked about, uh,

being threatened

by one of our new

incoming players.

And so, I did what

any coach would do.

I tried to talk to them and ask,

you know, the-the, uh,

the truthfulness of it and,

uh-uh, again, I thought it was,

a lot of times, it's

just basketball players

playing basketball and there

wasn't anything that seemed

to bear any need to go

any further with it.

And then, you know,

Larry took off, so...

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[phone ringing]

[Larry Johnson] [on phone]

Yeah?

[Kondelis] [on phone]

Hi, is this Larry?

[Johnson] Yeah.

[Kondelis] Hey, Larry,

this is Pat Kondelis.

I got your number from your...

[dial tone]

[Robbins] You know, to call it

a college sports scandal is...

is to minimize it.

An innocent person

lost their life.

[Announcer] Coach Bliss has

over 500 victories as

a head coach from the NCAA

schools, but more importantly,

carries a title now as a

Christian coach,

Coach Dave Bliss.

[Bliss] Thirteen years ago,

I committed several NCAA

violations, including

paying the scholarships

of two of our players.

And unfortunately, a month

later, one of the individuals

who was involved in my payment

was murdered and my life

spun out of control.

I didn't miss the fame.

I didn't miss being on TV.

What I missed was being

called Coach.

[chokes up]

Dave Bliss may be talking in

this room this morning,

but if God is speaking to you

in this room, don't wait.

Accept His son, read His word,

claim His promises

and trust the cross.

I'm grateful to have the

opportunity to share

with you all this morning.

Thank you.

[reporter] Many thought Bliss

would never return to the

college game after scandalous

behavior cost him everything

at Baylor.

[reporter] Southwest Christian

University, near Oklahoma City,

has hired Bliss to coach

its basketball team.

I'm a deeply, deeply

religious man.

I think God already gave

Coach Bliss a second chance.

I'm not higher than God.

So, I think it would be arrogant

for anybody to say that,

but it sounds interesting

when people say, oh,

he's getting a second chance

or he's getting a third chance.

No, I went after the

most qualified.

Dave has a changed heart

and has definitely

changed his life.

And of course, we want to have a

successful basketball program.

The bigger the mistake, the

bigger the lesson learned

and when I have a man who

has learned a big lesson,

I want him on my campus.

I think people, you know,

know that rules violations

are rampant.

Just about every coach

is breaking them in some

form or fashion.

This was just beyond the pale.

What's happened to Abar in the

immediate aftermath

and since then is a horrible

indictment on that industry.

If one of my assistants

would tape every one

of our conversations with

me not knowing it,

there's no way he would

be on my staff.

What I would think should have

happened is Abar Rouse got up,

really stood up

to Dave and said,

"There's no way we can do this."

Here's the one guy who did the

right thing in the situation at

Baylor and he can't get a job,

with 327 Division 1 programs,

does that strike you

as patently unfair?

He didn't do the right thing.

The right thing would have been

to stand up in the meeting

and tell the head coach,

"I'm not going for this.

This is not going to happen."

Well, except then Dave Bliss

could have denied it,

and he had it taped.

[Robbins] This truly is a

den of thieves.

The fact that Dave Bliss is

coaching and Abar Rouse isn't,

is just flat out wrong,

in my view.

[Abar] I'm a teacher in a

federal prison now.

And I love it.

I love what I do.

I'm proud of what I do.

If I was coaching, could I

say the same thing?

Coach Bliss has said that he

is sorry and he deserves

a second chance and

has asked for redemption.

I can't buy into it.

I can't believe and it's not

because I don't believe in

redemption or second chances.

It's because I work with

criminals on a constant basis.

I know what fake

redemption looks like

and what real

redemption looks like.

The guy's a marketing genius.

He's got a book coming out.

He just got a job and he's got

two or three friends

that he's known for his whole

life who are in his camp.

He is who he's going to be

and that's what it is.

What really sucks is that for

the world to see what kind of

person that guy is, that

somebody had to die.

We got his stuff from

his apartment.

He had a cell phone there.

A cell phone that had this

recording of his voice.

I played that over

and over and over.

I want his voice every day,

I want to hear his voice.

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[Irvin] Everyone's pointing

their finger at Carlton.

Carlton Dotson wasn't

your cancer.

He is a byproduct

of your cancer.

If Baylor University doesn't

at some point in time

respond to requests for

interviews and answer questions

forthright concerning what was

going on with that program,

the cancer's always going to be

there and it will resurface.

If you don't get it all,

it will come back.

[soft instrumental music]

This doggone world

we're living in

It's giving me a fit

It seems like everywhere

I turn

I see a hypocrite

Well, if ya wanna

go to heaven

Well, you can't live

like that

So let me tell you, brother

God's gonna getcha

for that

God's gonna getcha

for that

God's gonna getcha

for that

There's no place

to run and hide

For He knows where you're at

God's gonna getcha

for that

God's gonna getcha

for that

Every wrong thing

that you do

God's gonna getcha

for that

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