Eames: The Architect & The Painter Page #6
itwas two brothers.
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23:35,814 -- 00:23:37,873They were a married couple,
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23:37,949 -- 00:23:40,747while at the same time,
they were partners
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their design effortwas.
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23:43,288 -- 00:23:47,554OPPEWALL:
Ray felt, I think,472
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23:47,626 -- 00:23:50,993deeply enraged
and hurt, on occasion,
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23:51,062 -- 00:23:55,021when itwas assumed that it was
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23:55,100 -- 00:23:58,866actually just Charles's business
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23:58,937 -- 00:24:00,996and it was the office
of Charles Eames,
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24:01,072 -- 00:24:03,870not the office
of Charles and Ray Eames.
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24:03,942 -- 00:24:07,742It iwas/i Charles
who was in charge,
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24:07,813 -- 00:24:10,179but the body of work
would not have been the same
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24:10,248 -- 00:24:12,216without Ray's contributions,
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24:12,284 -- 00:24:16,516and how you separate that out,
I don't know.
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24:16,588 -- 00:24:19,751FRANCO:
If the public saw Rayas little more
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24:19,825 -- 00:24:22,385than the devoted wife
supporting her husband,
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24:22,461 -- 00:24:25,953Charles saw a talented artist
who had participated
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24:26,031 -- 00:24:29,091in America.
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24:29,167 -- 00:24:32,295Her mentor was the German
abstract expressionist
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24:32,370 -- 00:24:34,099Hans Hofmann.
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24:34,172 -- 00:24:37,300PERL:
Hofmann is oneof the great catalytic figures
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24:37,375 -- 00:24:39,002in American art.
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24:39,077 -- 00:24:43,514He starts a school
in New York City in '33
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24:43,582 -- 00:24:46,745with at times no more than
a dozen or two students.
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24:46,818 -- 00:24:50,777They, together, are the seed
out of which
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24:50,856 -- 00:24:53,416the new American art
really grows.
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24:58,663 -- 00:25:00,995He was getting ideas from people
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25:01,066 -- 00:25:04,160like Mondrian, Paul Klee,
Kandinsky,
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25:04,236 -- 00:25:06,932but he was communicating them
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25:07,005 -- 00:25:12,307not as textbook learning, but as
this incredibly visceral
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25:12,377 -- 00:25:14,106sensation.
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25:14,179 -- 00:25:18,639And I have talked to people
who remember him
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25:18,717 -- 00:25:21,880walking into the studio and
looking at a drawing of theirs
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25:21,953 -- 00:25:24,183and tearing it down the middle
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25:24,256 -- 00:25:27,987and then taking the two parts
and moving them.
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25:28,059 -- 00:25:30,926And then suddenly something
that had been very static
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25:30,996 -- 00:25:32,293was dynamic.
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25:34,099 -- 00:25:37,000KIRKHAM:
So I think it's therethat Ray learned
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25:37,068 -- 00:25:40,401some, at least, of this
wonderful capacity that she had
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25:40,472 -- 00:25:43,635for collaging,
forjuxtaposition.
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25:43,708 -- 00:25:46,575very, very easily
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25:46,645 -- 00:25:50,103and beautifully and find form,
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25:50,181 -- 00:25:54,345and find form
in relation to otherform.
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25:58,490 -- 00:26:02,324SUSSMAN:
Ray knew what was art511
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26:02,394 -- 00:26:04,021and whatwas not.
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26:04,095 -- 00:26:09,590And Charles depended
on her aesthetic genius.
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26:09,668 -- 00:26:14,696OPPEWALL:
And she would putobjects on shoots
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26:14,773 -- 00:26:18,402that would just bring
the whole thing to life.
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26:20,211 -- 00:26:24,944By putting the stack
of black wire chairs
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26:25,016 -- 00:26:28,144naked with the wooden bird
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26:28,219 -- 00:26:30,084with the little wire legs,
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26:30,155 -- 00:26:34,489gave you a very different
feeling about those chairs.
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26:36,595 -- 00:26:39,257with the idea
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26:39,331 -- 00:26:41,993that any of the furniture
would have color on it.
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26:42,067 -- 00:26:44,092If you put a palette of colors
in front of him,
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26:44,169 -- 00:26:46,160they just... like he couldn't
handle it.
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26:46,237 -- 00:26:48,671It just went
over his head.
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26:48,740 -- 00:26:51,265He deferred to her completely
on color sense.
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26:51,343 -- 00:26:54,335BEEBE:
She saw everythingas a painting.
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26:54,412 -- 00:26:56,937She had these enormous eyes
that were...
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26:57,015 -- 00:26:59,381they were open like this
all the time.
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26:59,451 -- 00:27:02,648And I think Charles
was very dependent on that.
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27:02,721 -- 00:27:05,121SUSSMAN:
You could justhear him say,
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27:05,190 -- 00:27:07,090"Ra-ay!"
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27:07,158 -- 00:27:09,023Which meant, "Come and help!"
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27:09,094 -- 00:27:11,324FRANCO:
At the Libraryof Congress,
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27:11,396 -- 00:27:14,888Ray's letters
to a traveling Charles
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27:14,966 -- 00:27:16,991show her fastidious attention
to every detail
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27:17,068 -- 00:27:18,695of their life and work.
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27:18,770 -- 00:27:21,534MAN:
When she writes to Charlesin Paris
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27:21,606 -- 00:27:24,973and she's talking about
the slides that he's just taken,
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27:25,043 -- 00:27:27,534and she has this sketch
showing how she
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27:27,612 -- 00:27:31,207and Sandro and Don Albinson
have changed the chair.
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27:31,282 -- 00:27:33,773And then she's going on
about the films,
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27:33,852 -- 00:27:35,786and she's going on
about Elmer Bernstein.
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27:35,854 -- 00:27:38,448Then she tells him all
the places to shop in Paris
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27:38,523 -- 00:27:39,956and where to get his shoes
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27:40,025 -- 00:27:41,253and where to get her gloves
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27:41,326 -- 00:27:43,385and whatthe stitching
should be like on the gloves
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27:43,461 -- 00:27:47,420and how this perfume
by Balmain is $55 an ounce here,
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27:47,499 -- 00:27:50,764but it's cheaper in Paris,
"and please get it for me."
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27:53,104 -- 00:27:54,969SELIGSOHN:
It's as ifthey were one individual
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27:55,040 -- 00:27:57,873with two different
special areas,
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27:57,942 -- 00:27:59,773and a lot of itwas unspoken,
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27:59,844 -- 00:28:02,074just eye... eye contact.
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28:02,147 -- 00:28:03,774A nodding of something...
an idea
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28:05,884 -- 00:28:09,547PEATROSS:
So that's howyou begin to separate
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28:09,621 -- 00:28:12,385their artistic personalities
and their contributions.
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28:12,457 -- 00:28:15,051But the separating them
isn't the important part.
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28:15,126 -- 00:28:18,186It's what they created together.
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28:18,263 -- 00:28:20,959That's why it's so good.
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28:25,670 -- 00:28:28,571FRANCO:
Perhaps the greatest
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