END:CIV Page #9

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We need to be out there

in the real world fighting back.

- I think one of the things

that we really have to accept

and internalize is that

the majority of institutions,

and the majority of people,

are never going to be on our side.

And so we have to sit down --

as individual activists

and as communities of resistance,

as a culture of resistance --

and we have to say

"Okay, well, what will it take to stop

this culture from destroying the planet?"

You know, part of the

answer is obviously that

persuasion hasn't worked and persuasion

is not going to work.

If we want to be...

...successful, then we have to

look at what resistance

movements in the past have done,

and what they've learned

and kind of the different phases

that they've gone through

as they've tried to

assert themselves and

try to be successful.

- When I say "organize

political resistance,"

I mean we need to

face power head-on.

Once you name power,

you will find that

power is sociopathic,

that the people in

charge will do whatever

it takes to shut you up.

- The thing about when

you enter into a greater

period of social conflict,

what you don't want

is people promoting

non-violence because

that's going to disarm

the people -- it's going to

disarm the people in the face

of an aggressive enemy,

and in the face

of hard social conditions.

You want them to have

a stronger fighting spirit

because without a fighting spirit,

you lack the will to resist.

- The smartest thing the Nazis did

was they made it so that at every

step of the way, it was in the Jews'

rational best interest to not resist.

Would you rather get an ID card,

or do you want to resist

and possibly get killed?

Do you want to move to a ghetto,

or do you want to resist

and possibly get killed?

Do you want to get on a cattle car,

or do you want to resist

and possibly get killed?

You want to take a shower,

or do you want to resist

and possibly get killed?

At every step of the way,

it was in their rational

self-interest to not resist.

But I'll tell you

something very important,

which is:
the Jews who participated

in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising

had a higher rate of survival

than those who went along.

- I think that if any of us were

alive in Nazi Germany right now,

we would know what a resistance

movement should be doing.

And we need to think about

the culture of industrial civilization

as if it's a culture of occupation,

because it is.

Figure VI

- If Nazis or other fascists

took over North America,

what would we all do?

What would we do if they implemented

Mussolini's definition of fascism:

"Fascism should more appropriately

be called corporatism

because it is a merger of

state and corporate power."

What if this occupied country

called itself a democracy,

but most everyone understood

elections to be shams,

with citizens allowed to choose between

different wings of the same fascists,

(or, following Mussolini, Corporate) party.

What if anti-government activity

was opposed by

storm troopers and secret police?

Would you fight back?

If there already existed a resistance

movement, would you join it?

Would you resist if the fascists irradiated

the countryside, poisoned food supplies,

made rivers unfit for

swimming and so filthy

you wouldn't even dream

of drinking from anymore?

If fascists systematically

deforested the continent, would you join

an underground army of resistance,

head to the forests, and from there

to boardrooms and

the halls of the Reichstag

to pick off the occupying deforesters

and, most especially, those that

give them their marching orders?

Give me a threshold.

Give me a specific point

at which you'll finally take a stand.

If you can't or won't

give that threshold, why not?

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