Fagbug Nation Page #7

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have 'em on?

No?

Don't ask.

[Erin] You don't wear yours?

Yeah, but don't ask.

I lost mine (mumbles).

The ocean sucked

it off his hand.

Apparently, it's

pretty common here.

We got married legally

married in Washington D.C.

April 10th, 2012?

2010 sounds good,

I think it was 2011.

Whenever they made

it legal we flew

We ran over there quickly.

And planned a quickie wedding.

It was like a shotgun

wedding, like I was pregnant.

I totally am into having the

government recognition and

then the legal aspect as well

but for myself personally

from here on in, it's

not my top choice to

do the paperwork.

When we received our

recorded marriage license

back from the county.

It came back in a manilla

envelope that wasn't damaged

but when we opened it

up, our marriage license

had been pretty much mutilated.

Ripped, holes punched

in it, torn up.

which clearly sent a message.

Whoever processed it,

the LA County saw it,

obviously wasn't happy

about our marriage.

[Erin] I was surprised to

hear that you guys are married

I'm gay and she's straight.

We married because we

needed medical insurance

and you can't get that

when you're not married.

Even though they do

consider you common law.

[Erin] How long have

you two been together?

[Both] Since '89.

Married in 95' so

almost married 20 years,

married 18 years.

[Erin] What's the key to

your marriage lasting as long?

We're friends.

[Erin] You guys ever seen

each other naked or no?

Hell no!

I mean she has only

because of her operation

and that type of

thing in the hospital.

I don't change in front of her

and she don't change

in front of me.

(stammers) sorry.

I like looking at women

don't get me wrong,

I admire, I'm an artist.

And I have no problem

looking at another man.

Sexually, I could care less.

[Erin] Isn't that hard for you

since you're attracted to men?

No, it's not hard for me.

"Scenery, aisle four!"

(laughter)

Man that is.

[Erin] So it wasn't just

like only an arrangement?

There is more to it but no

completely the relationship?

No sexual, that's it.

Everything else is the marriage.

And unfortunately, you already

know that in most cases

some marriages stop having sex

after the age of 50 anyway.

[Erin] What if it got

legalized in all 50 states,

would that change

your relationship?

Our relationship?

No because Gilbert has

had friends in the past,

male relations in the past.

And it didn't really matter.

[Erin] The relationships

you've had with men

just haven't been permanent,

like long lasting as

this relationship?

None of them were even

thinking about trying

to be serious.

And still in the respect, I

still wouldn't've done that

only because that's not

really what I wanted.

I wanted to try and fit in.

I remember in high school

being attracted to guys

and there was an article in

Time Magazine about that time

talking about two guys in

California that were gonna

get married and so there

way this whole sort of thing

about that and I remember

hiding in a closet

reading through

this magazine going,

"Really, that's possible?"

It's kind of like one of

those things I grew up knowing

that it wasn't something

that I would be able to do

and it makes you feel not

very valuable as a person

And I've just sort of

blocked that whole thought

from my mind.

If you want to get married,

I shouldn't have to fight

that battle for you,

that's your battle,

that's not my battle.

Nowadays, things are changing.

I can't hold any differences

between one or the other.

If a man wants to marry a man or

a woman wants to marry a woman,

I think it's all cool, that's

what America is all about.

Our journey is not

complete until our gay

brothers and sisters are

treated like anyone else

under the law for if we

are truly created equal

then surely the love we

commit to one another

must be equal as well.

Take a walk in the valley

Take a break from all

your cares and concerns

When I wanted to

ask Erin to marry me

I wanted to bring her

here to Boldt Castle.

on Heart island.

I thought it would be a

really romantic place,

she beat me to it.

She proposed a couple of

days before I was going to

but we had plans to

come to Boldt Castle anyways.

This is where I was

gonna propose to you.

Right here, my favorite

spot in this castle.

It's just so beautiful, I

have so many fond memories

I wanted to bring you here

and share them with you.

We met with this coordinator

right here on the island

and he was completely

discouraging and disdainful

of us getting married.

We went in the office and

asked about weddings in general

and he was like, "Oh, who's

getting married here?"

and I said, "We are.

And he was like, "Wow,

that's what I thought."

And we don't approve of that.

"This is a family place."

And pretty much right

off the bat it was a bad

first impression

for Erin because

I had said such good

things about this place

and spoke so highly

of it and then

pretty much instantly before

we even step foot in the castle

we have this guy being a

complete douche bag to us.

[Erin] Once we were denied

the right to get married

at the Boldt Castle, I did

a search online and decided

it just makes more sense

to look into states

that had already

legalized gay marriage

and Vermont popped up first.

I stumbled upon a place

called the Reluctant Panther.

We went there and

visited and Sonya and I

fell in love with it instantly.

I'll be still as (unclear)

Take my hand

I can be your

lantern in the dark

Lean on me for assurance

Don't let it go

this ship will row

But it won't fall apart

I got you

It's all about you

Something old something new

Something borrowed

something blue

Until I'm through

Something old something new

Something borrowed

something blue

Until I'm through

Erin, I'm so proud

of all that you've

accomplished in life

and all your fagbug

accomplishments in life

and adventures, the

start of your life

with a wonderful woman.

It's kind of weird but

you're a super sister

and an awesome aunt.

My kids really do adore you

and I love you very much.

[Erin] What was your

favorite part of the

weekend for the wedding?

I think it was

spending time with family

and the wedding happening.

And I really liked

going around Vermont

and seeing all the

stops and things.

[Erin] What do you guys think

of Sonya and I being married?

Weird.

Weird.

Why is it weird?

Because you guys

are both girls.

Yeah.

[Erin] And why do

you think that's weird?

Because it is.

[Erin] Who told you

that it was weird?

Nobody.

We did.

[Erin] Nobody?

Do you think that two

girls can be married?

No.

Can two boys be married?

[Erin] Yeah, what do you

think of two boys being married?

No, no!

[Erin] No, why not?

Because.

[Erin] You don't know why?

Where did you learn that?

No, no, I just know it.

[Erin] You just know it?

And how old are you?

Five!

[Erin] You're five and

you just know it, huh?

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