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lt might influence the jury

lt might change a lot of things

in a negative way.

He's trying so hard to at least

get a trial and then this comes up...

where he's constantly being defamed.

You never know who you might see

when you're standing outside a film studio.

Kevin Bacon had no interest whatsoever.

But radio personality Lazlow did.

With the proliferation of the news...

TV news journalism like Primetime Live...

and these shows

that completely distort the facts...

and shows like 60 Minutes

being forced to go in the same direction...

people don't knowthe facts about the case.

They don't knowthe facts about hackers.

l'd say that hackers...

are the communists of the 1990s...

where, basically, if anybody says ''hacker''...

all of a sudden you've got this demon 666 across

your head.

Nobody actually understands any of it.

What l do in my part, on the radio...

with my syndicated show,

is try to get people to open their brains...

because l talk to a lot of old people,

because l'm on a lot of news talk stations.

When l can, l put Emmanuel or Bernie S.,

or anybody else on there...

to talk about the state of what's going on,

because nobody else will cover it.

The people who cover it

in the mainstream media...

do so for profit,

like the guy that wrote the book.

The demonstrators say they have sent

a copy of this illicitly obtained script...

to Kevin Mitnick in jail,

and that he absolutely hates it.

Miramax's parent, Disney,

may not like it either.

The controversy comes on the heels...

of the dumping of $43 million

in Disney stock...

by the Texas Board of Education.

The board's complaint: Miramax films

have too much sex and violence.

Miramax distorts the facts!

Was that Harvey Weinstein,

President of Miramax?

He walked right by us.

He didn't even get

a ''Stop Miramax'' brochure?

Of course we had a brochure for Harvey.

Okay, l'll talk to you later. Bye.

-What did they say?

-l don't know.

There she is.

That's the one who answered the phone.

She hung up on me yesterday

l got through.

They waved. Did you see them wave?

Miramax distorts the facts!

They said if you use a bullhorn...

or obstruct people's walkways,

you have to have a permit.

Miramax distorts the facts!

lf you continue to use that,

l'm gonna have to call the cops.

l think that three years is a long time

to be held without actually having a trial.

And l think that what Miramax is doing...

is going to jeopardize his right

to have a free and honest trial.

So that's why l'm out here protesting.

Thank you.

They all were aware of the thing

in front of the building in NewYork City.

They talked about it on the set,

asked me about it.

They said ''Did you talk to Emmanuel?

That's great.''

They were waving. They think it's fantastic.

And they all want Free Kevin stickers.

The whole crew.

lf you give me some, l will send it to them.

They will put them on their cars.

Hello, sir.

Do you know who Kevin Mitnick is?

Hello, sir.

Do you know who Kevin Mitnick is?

No, l do not.

Computer hacker who's been in jail

for three-and-a-half years without a trial.

Miramax has decided

to make a movie about him.

The script is false.

lt makes him out to be a violent racist...

which he is not.

l want to know what you think about it.

When are they doing the film?

-They start shooting in a few weeks.

-Kevin Mitnick is great.

-How do l find out the truth?

-They should take him out of prison.

-Hold on, l want to talk to you.

-What's that?

My main thing is the only reason

he ended up running afoul of the law...

is because people don't have

access to communications.

All you got is big corporations like Miramax

with access to communications.

FirstAmendment! Yeah!

This is inAmerica.

-He was in jail three years without a trial?

-He's still in jail.

l saw something about this

on CNBC on Friday.

This happens a lot, though.

You always have unauthorized biographies

and stuff like that.

Where it's like, you have an autobiography...

you have an authorized biography.

-This is sort of like an unauthorized--

-This is going to be big.

-He hasn't had a trial yet?

-Hasn't had a trial yet.

Not only that, in the movie,

they already wrote that he had a trial.

-You ever hear of Kevin Mitnick?

-No. Who's that?

Well, if you're walking away, l really can't....

How did you guys get a hold of the script?

Okay. All right.

You're a lawyer.

lsn't it illegal if they're gonna slander him?

Can't they try and stop them

on legal grounds?

That's not right.They have to put a waiver--

l think they should hold the film

until after he's had a fair trial.

l mean, it happens.

lt happened, unfortunately

You know, l don't think it should be....

Obviously, it's probably not legal

to have a lawsuit against Miramax.

l think they should have to wait

until he's had a fair trial.

And also they shouldn't use his real name.

lf they want to change the facts,

they should change the name.

-Make it a fictional story.

-Three-and-a-half years is a long time.

Think about what you've done

for the last three-and-a-half years.

And imagine being in jail

while all that stuf was happening.

For just that. Just for copying software.

l've copied software.

-What did he do? He hacked.

-He hacked.

l would like to know your opinion...

on the slandering in this film.

Miramax sucks. So, like, Free Kevin!

l can't talk sh*t about a movie

l haven't seen or read the script of.

But the one relevant thing that l could say..

is it seems to me there is

a witch-hunt sort of hysterical mentality..

vis-a-vis hacking, you know.

People are very quick to fly off the handle

and condemn as terrorists...

people who are, you know,

exploring a newtechnology landscape...

in a way that they don't understand.

-Definitely.

-That's as far as l can go not having seen it.

Not only did we find a receptive bunch

at local theaters...

they even started to do our work for us.

New York was great.

But it was only the start.

New York was great.

But it was only the start.

We had to travel to get to the right people.

So we put together a camera crew...

and made sure none of us had anything

planned for the next several weeks.

We charted out a course,

and headed to the airport.

That's where we got our economy-sized

rental car with unlimited mileage.

The plan was to go

to Wilmington, North Carolina...

where filming for Takedown

was about to begin.

On the way, we figured we'd make a detour

and stop at Defcon...

the annual hacker convention in Las Vegas.

lf we were going to do that,

we should stop in San Diego...

to say hi to Tsutomu Shimomura...

and maybe convince him

to stop using Kevin Mitnick as a cash cow.

And if we did that,

it would be rude not to visit John Markof...

to ask him to inject some accuracy

into his stories about Kevin.

Since we were suddenly adding

we might as well visit

some of the corporations...

who were claiming Kevin Mitnick

cost them millions of dollars in damages...

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