Genius on Hold Page #10
It was the big bang of
telecom policy.
It was something that just
completely reset the terms,
uh, for telecommunications
uh, for the 21st century.
In January of 1982,
AT&T was forced by Judge
Harold H. Green
to divest itself
of the wholly owned
Bell telephone operating
companies,
from making a living
and pursuing his dreams.
On January 1st, 1984,
the Bell monopoly was dead.
What exactly was this
marriage of big government
with big corporation?
Was this a unique
relationship?
It was not.
The marriage of Bell
with the government
is what economists call
corporatism.
Fascism is corporatist.
I mean, there's no,
it's not an extreme,
fascism was corporatist.
And Mussolini, uh, was the
one who kind of
first promoted the idea,
well the Italian fascists
were the ones who developed
the idea of corporatism.
AT&T was the epitome of, uh,
kind of a corporate
structure.
You had a very powerful
labor union,
The Communication
Workers of America.
You had the biggest
corporation in the world,
uh, with a monopoly,
a government sanctioned
monopoly
and you had them working
very closely
with the government on
things like uh,
uh, national security
technologies,
uh, um...
wire-tapping, uh you know,
providing information
to the government about
who was doing what,
uh, you have a consolidated
stakeholder group.
This is what big business
wants.
This is what government
wants.
This is what the
representatives
of labor want.
And that's what happens.
America is a democracy.
It is a free society.
Yet it employed a fascist
economic structure.
But that was 90 years ago.
The question is...
can it happen again?
Today, elements of
corporatism are still active
in America where
corporations
representing different
groups exist
to influence government
legislation through lobbying.
While these corporations
have no membership,
in any legislative body, they
wield considerable power.
American corporatism is
alive and operating today
as reflected by
the relationships
between members of the
former Bush administration
and corporations
such as Halliburton.
Circumstances like these
further support the notion
put forth by critics
of capitalism.
They argue that any form
of capitalism
will eventually devolve
into corporatism.
Where concentration
of wealth
The administrations of
presidents Carter, Reagan,
Bush Sr., Clinton,
and Bush Jr.
favored deregulation policy
throughout their
respective terms.
The idea was to let big
business, big corporations,
big banks, operate with less
government interference,
unlike the Bell structure.
In 1999, the financial
services modernization act
is enacted in the 106th
United States Congress
under President Clinton.
Banks, securities houses,
finance companies,
and insurance companies
will be allowed to merge
and consolidate at will.
Soon, investment brokers
will create and sell
high risk, virtually
worthless investment products
to commercial banks
which will result
in one of the greatest
economic catastrophes
in American history.
Uh, the United States
had organized crime
on a, on a scale that
uh, uh was way, way
beyond that of what
ethnic groups
like Italian-Americans and
Jewish-Americans brought.
Uh, we know the whole story
about the,
about the robber barons.
Uh, we know about
the Rockefellers.
We know about
the Vanderbilts,
uh, we know about
the people who indeed
are organized crime
on a, on a, on a level
uh, that uh, perhaps
is being repeated again,
uh perhaps being
repeated again
by corporate America.
Big business in cooperation
with big government
worked together to take
the country
to the brink of disaster.
How does their
behavior differ
from the criminal behavior
we know
as organized crime?
Well, first of all, the
difference is that they,
the individuals
who are doing it
at the corporate level
of America
are certainly making money
way beyond anything
ever dreamed of,
but the kind of organized
crime that titillates all of us,
So, thats a, an important
difference.
Uh, I provide in
my research, in my books
a definition of organized
crime.
of those attributes
could certainly fit all of
the, the corporate
criminal activities that have
become,
uh, well known to all of us
as a result of media exposure.
Perhaps the only one, and I
would have to be cautious
about saying that we're not
gonna include that one,
the only one was that the
willingness to use violence.
Big corporation,
big government,
big stakeholders,
capitalist, socialist,
regulate, deregulate.
In the end, what do these
words mean
to a democracy?
to Walter Shaw?
These words are ideologies.
Methods of government,
manipulations of power.
Economic rationales.
And they profoundly affect
every level of our society
for decades,
even centuries at a time.
While there are no easy
answers to explain
why we are,
where we are today,
there are also no easy
answers
as to what to do about it.
At very least, as members
of a free society,
we have the opportunity to
educate,
to demand truth,
to object, to reject,
who serve us,
supply us, and govern us,
and to speak up when
wrongs are not righted.
It's all we've got.
Winston Churchill said this:
"We accept in the fullest
sense of the word,
the settled and persistent
will of the people
all this idea of a group
of super men
and super planners making
the masses of the people
do what they think
is good for them
without any check
or correction
is a violation of democracy.
Many forms of government
have been tried
and will be tried in this
world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that
democracy is prefect
or all wise.
Indeed,
it has been said that
democracy
is the worst form of
government,
except all those other forms
that have been tried
from time to time
but there is the broad
feeling in our country
continuously rule
and that public opinion
expressed by all
constitutional means
should shape, guide, and
control the actions
of ministers who are their
servants
and not their masters.
I says, why do you think
we never benefited?
I said, what, what do you
think it was all about, dad?
He said,
I never questioned it.
I just know I had the gift,
the ability and the blessing
from God to do what I did
and I never ever
questioned him
but he says,
you know what, Thiel?
It doesn't matter what
anybody says about me
'cause my inventions will
speak long after I'm gone.
Walter Shaw
would live to see
the dismantling
of Bell telephone.
But many years
too late for him
and his family.
- Final question.
- Mmm.
If your father
walked in here right now,
what would you say to him?
Greg, I don't know.
I'd ask for another day.
And that would be a gift?
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