Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief Page #12

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And had water

poured on his head

Until he literally

turned blue.

Miscavige slapped me

across the face,

Knocked me on the ground,

kicked me a couple times.

Flailing fists,

kneeing him in the stomach,

Getting him on the floor.

And you think,

you want to get up

and retaliate,

But you also think,

"i got 75 other people

"who are all likely

to tackle me if i did"...

And then you got

the sheer shock of it.

Here's the equivalent

of the pope

Suddenly knocking you

on the ground,

And you're thinking,

"i must have

really screwed up."

It was

a poisonous environment.

People were

really frightened.

And this went on for years.

This isn't a couple of days.

The nominal president

of the church,

This man

named heber jentszch,

He was in there

for seven years.

What is the statement?

"god helps those

who help themselves."

Well, in scientology,

we're engaged

In helping people

help themselves,

So they can

fully comprehend

and understand god.

One night,

Miscavige comes

into the hole with a boom box.

He said, "i'm gonna

teach you all a lesson.

"we're all gonna play

musical chairs."

And musical chairs

is a scientology

Administrative term

for when you move people

From different posts rapidly,

and you create instability.

They played

the damned music.

He said,

"we're gonna play it

To 'bohemian rhapsody'

by queen."

And he emphasized the line...

..."nothing matters anymore."

and that's your whole attitude,

That's where you live,

that's who you are.

Playing that music,

and stop it,

And everyone would

have to grab a chair.

And there's one person

left standing.

What miscavige

has warned them

Is that the last person

who remains gets to stay.

"everybody else,

you're expelled.

"you're going to be thrown out

of the sea org."

These people were fighting

to stay in the hole.

Throwing people around,

scratching, kicking.

They're tearing chairs apart,

they're ripping clothing.

And whatever it took.

But then nothing happens.

"out of the goodness

of my heart, you can stay.

"but you better come clean.

You better--

"i better have some good

confessions out of you."

I-- i mean, you--

you know...

As much as they

get into everything

that you ever think or do,

They never got into my think

on this score,

That i would never

go to prison.

And so it was inevitable,

when i got-- when i--

He literally created

this prison camp.

Um, it was inevitable

that i wasn't gonna

last there.

It's embarrassing to have

ever been involved with,

To think about it.

"god, i can't even believe

i'm talkin' about it."

But it was bad.

Let's say the fbi

showed up at the hole,

And said, "this is the fbi.

We're lettin' everyone out."

Do you think everyone

would have said, "oh,

thank god, the fbi's here"?

No. I think that everybody,

one for one,

Would have gone,

"what do you mean?

"we-- we're doing this

voluntarily.

"we like living

in these conditions."

Over the past week,

We've been reporting on

allegations of physical abuse

Inside

the church of scientology.

We spoke with the ex-wives

of some of the men

Making the claims of abuse.

I read all of your affidavits.

Obviously, your ex-husbands

have made charges

Against david miscavige,

Saying that

they have seen repeated acts

of physical violence

Perpetrated by mr. Miscavige.

Is-- is any of that true?

No. No.

Not one ounce of it.

That's not the character

of mr. David miscavige.

My ex-wife,

marty rathbun's ex-wife,

Tom de vocht's ex-wife,

that were on "anderson cooper,"

They all came out of the hole!

They were all sent there

to do that.

They went back to the hole!

It's just ridiculous.

This line

that my ex-wife said...

I lived with mike rinder

for over 35 years.

I know every square inch

of mike rinder's body.

She said it

because she was told

to say it by miscavige.

And the proof of that is,

when tom de vocht's ex-wife

Then repeated the same thing

over again...

I know every inch of him.

You gotta be kidding me!

Everything that happens

From the church of scientology

is scripted.

Don't ever turn

the other cheek and acquiesce,

Hit 'em back.

Marty rathbun

suddenly went and leapt

on top of mike rinder

And fought him to the ground

And started choking him

and beating him.

And nothing seems

to have been done about it.

Mr. Miscavige was not

at the property at the time.

Do you not have telephones?

Of course we have telephones.

I think

you're being quite rude

and quite insulting.

Here's the bottom line.

Here's the bottom line--

There is no history

of violence in the church.

As somebody who ran pr

for the church for a long time,

Do you have any regret

for anything that you did

in that capacity?

Well,

i think the biggest regret

Is when john sweeney

at "panorama" was doing

his program,

It was the culmination

of a lot--

I mean, i'd been

in the hole for a year.

And i ended up

being sent to england.

Hi, mike.

He was

constantly going,

"well, why do you

have private investigators

following me?"

I'm like...

That never happened!

Ever, ever happened!

And of course there were.

I was following john sweeney.

Oh, there it is.

Okay, there we are.

He's got his camera,

He's standing there

and he's saying,

"i want a response.

I have credible witnesses.

"did david miscavige

physically assault you?"

And i said...

Those allegations

are absolute, utter rubbish.

Absolute, utter rubbish.

You have been assaulted

by miscavige?

Many times, many times.

Perhaps more

than anybody else.

I was now sort of

At the end of my rope.

It was a real moment

of clarity for me--

"i don't want

to be doing this anymore.

"this is nuts!"

That was actually

the last thing that i did

before i left.

So i'd been in scientology

about two and a half years.

I am kickin' ass.

I felt like i had gotten out

of the f***in' trap.

I didn't have to

have a problem.

I said,

"i'm done with auditing."

But they insisted

on gettin' me back,

And said just,

"believe us, believe us,

believe us."

I got so f***ed up.

I mean, they-- they--

i went insane.

I was, like,

stuck somewhere

In a tiny spot

behind my eyeballs,

Looking this way.

I mean, i--

i'd never experienced

anything like it.

10 f***in' years!

I was worse than the day

that i walked in.

It was by design,

'cause they needed to--

To keep me in there.

So basically, they had to

Put a whole new case on me,

so they could run it.

And they just kept tryin'

to f***in' keep me stuck in.

It was crazy!

So i finally said,

"i'm going my way.

You guys go yours."

I was pissed. I was sad.

I was disillusioned.

And i thought,

"maybe somebody

could interview me,

"ask me some questions

about scientology."

How i got into scientology,

and why i got out.

Post this two-hour thing,

And it was the #1 thing

on youtube for two days

Before

it "mysteriously" disappeared.

The best traps--

You get a guy to just

keep himself in jail.

Right? And that's

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