Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief Page #7

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at that time.

Oh my god.

The building

is filled with fbi,

And they're--

they're taking things.

It was craziness.

Clearly, l. Ron hubbard

was in charge of all of that,

But he was only named

an unindicted co-conspirator.

And mary sue hubbard,

hubbard's wife,

She went to prison,

10 others went to prison.

This was where

i cut my teeth.

I was in my early 20s,

Miscavige

was in his early 20s.

We were taking over

for this group

That had created

the largest domestic

espionage operation

In the history

of the united states.

They were

breaking into offices,

Framing people.

This is the activities

of a church?

There was a guy who,

uh, you know,

Was a reporter

for "the la times,"

Whose dog was poisoned

While he was working

on a scientology story.

Again and again

while reporting the story,

We met many former members

who describe scientology

As a dangerous and deeply

paranoid organization.

They hired private detectives

to harass people.

I have been sued twice.

Financial ruin.

Years of harassment.

Their homes broken into,

have them beaten.

We chased her around.

We followed her

to the airport.

Gotten ahold of

personal phone records.

Slashed their tires,

break their car windows.

I was locked

in a chicken wire cage.

Dangerous, horrifying,

terrifying fraud.

A nightmare.

Many of their stories

are corroborated

In sworn court testimony

by up to a dozen other people.

Are they all lying?

They sat in a room,

They figured out

what they were going to say...

My position,

as the spokesperson,

Was to evade

the question,

Or sleaze around some way,

Or give what

was an acceptable answer,

Or something

that i believed at the time.

Please welcome

mr. Mike rinder.

Because scientology

is perceived

And conceived

by scientologists

As being the salvation

for mankind,

You can have people

that lie

With a very straight face

If they believe

that what they are doing

Is protecting

the church of scientology.

L. Ron hubbard says,

"we do not find critics

of scientology

"who do not

have criminal pasts."

Do you believe that?

Sure.

People who oppose you

are undoubtedly criminals?

I believe that, yeah.

You know, there isn't

and hasn't been

Any effort

which has been taken to,

Quote,

"silence critics."

"no, that doesn't happen.

"oh, we would never do that."

But according

to many insiders,

Hubbard was growing

more and more vindictive

Toward those

who stood in his way.

He created what he called

the rehabilitation

project force.

The rpf was

what we called it.

It was the prison camp,

Where you'd go

for re-indoctrination.

It was on the 7th floor

Of the hollywood

headquarters,

A confined space

to rehabilitate members

Who might be harboring

subversive thoughts.

Spanky was sent to the rpf

When she objected

to the way the church

Had denied medical treatment

to her boss.

I went thinking, of course,

This is a big mistake.

And then i got there,

and there were like

200 of us.

So much of the exec strata

of the organization there

Hit the skids

simultaneously.

Rpf stands for

rehabilitation project force.

It is a program

that is exclusively

For the benefit

of sea organization members.

If they are stressed out,

If they're not doing well

on their job,

Have them do

menial-type work,

And five hours a day

of auditing

And scientology training.

It's a fabulous program.

We were working--

cross my heart--

30 hours on,

three hours off.

Doing, like, hard labor,

Like having wire brushes

on windowsills,

And sanding

and sanding and sanding.

Breathing paint fumes.

The regular crew

would eat first,

And then we'd get

what was left.

It was kinda

like table scraps.

There was mattresses

out there on the roof,

And they were wet

and soggy and gross.

And if you got to sleep

for three hours,

Sometimes you'd just have to

up there and crash out.

And i had a young child

at that time,

Who was 10 months old

when i went to the rpf.

She got taken

and put in the cadet org,

The organization

for the children.

And then i--

i got pregnant

When i was in the rpf.

So now i'm sanding walls,

eating table scraps,

Pregnant,

and worrying myself sick

about my child.

In spanky's time,

the children

Of sea org members

were separated

From their parents

and raised in the cadet org

To remove all distractions

From their parent's

ultimate responsibility,

To clear the planet.

Sea org members

were often pressured

to have abortions,

Because the church

viewed "getting children"

As an unpractical burden.

Initially, you're like,

"this is absurd.

"this is nuts."

And then you kinda

settle in and go, "well...

"obviously, i need

to deal with something

"that i'm not facing.

"so perhaps this is--

"they're doing this

to make me better."

There are so many

bizarre stories that you--

Just hard

to believe stuff.

They asked

if i could arrange

a private screening

Of "saturday night fever."

And i was like, "what?"

"i had disappeared

from this man's life.

"i abandoned him,

"and now you

want me to arrange

a private screening?

"what are you--"

I said,

"is there anything else?

Maybe a beatles reunion?"

Travolta had been wondering

where spanky was.

When she was sent

to the rpf,

She was not allowed

to contact him

or anyone else.

But now,

under the watch of a guard,

She was permitted

to call travolta's assistant.

She said we could

use john's personal print

of the film,

Under one condition--

that you will see john.

I was so excited.

I hadn't had dialogue

with him for many months.

We had the screening

of the film,

And on the next night,

I was supposed

to have dinner with johnny.

And after

the screening,

I was abruptly told

i wasn't going to see him,

And i needed

to call and cancel.

He was truly angry

at me for-- for--

For having allowed this abuse

of myself, you know,

And for having that--

so little of myself...

That i would allow

this degree of degradation,

And, and um--

and--

And he was my good friend,

And i knew that he was

telling me the truth.

Those words were

such a wakeup call for me.

And i went over there,

to the cadet org.

There were so many

sick children in there,

And my daughter

was very, very ill--

Burning up with fever,

completely neglected,

In a urine-soaked crib.

Her eyes were

so filled with mucus,

They were welded shut.

She had fruit flies

on her body.

And i just--

i couldn't bear it.

I just went,

"no, mmm-mmm, i'm done."

I mean, i just knew

i could make these choices

for me.

I could decide

to give up my life

And do this

to help the world,

But i couldn't

make these choices

for my children.

I just had to get her out.

I told them

that i was having problems

with my pregnancy,

And i needed

to use the phone,

So they sent

a bodyguard with me.

I called one of the few

non-scientologists i knew,

A wonderful woman who happened

to work for john travolta.

I said,

"meet me at this address."

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Alex Gibney

Philip Alexander "Alex" Gibney (born October 23, 1953) is an American documentary film director and producer. In 2010, Esquire magazine said Gibney "is becoming the most important documentarian of our time".His works as director include Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief (winner of three Emmys in 2015), We Steal Secrets: The Story of Wikileaks, Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God (the winner of three primetime Emmy awards), Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (nominated in 2005 for Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature); Client 9: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer (short-listed in 2011 for the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature); Casino Jack and the United States of Money; and Taxi to the Dark Side (winner of the 2007 Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature), focusing on a taxi driver in Afghanistan who was tortured and killed at Bagram Air Force Base in 2002. more…

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