I Called Him Morgan Page #7
at Slugs' Jazz Club.
Police have arrested
Mrs. Morgan,
who is due to be arraigned
No further statements
have been issued.
We had a memorial service
over in Philadelphia.
And, uh...
And they buried him
in Philadelphia.
And that was a very sad time.
That was--that was...
the end of a beginning.
[Bennie] I cried most of
the day that day.
And I hadn't cried,
you know, in ages.
I don't remember
crying like that.
And then I was curious about
what happened to Helen.
And then I heard
that, of course,
taken her to jail.
And I never saw her again.
[Helen] And it came down,
you know.
My kids is upset.
They don't know what to think.
They don't know what
to think, you know?
I had to go to court.
And then when we went
to jail, I sat there.
And I was just sitting there.
She was, for a while
there, I mean, she just--
it was almost like
she wished she had
And then trying to
get her out, trying to
get a lawyer,
all those kind of things--
it was pretty hectic.
The lawyer made
arrangements for her
second-degree manslaughter.
or five years' probation.
That's what she
pleaded guilty to.
[serene music playing]
She had to get permission to
leave the state of New York.
We drove down, probably
it was in 1974 or '75,
somewhere along then.
We took her down.
So she wanted to go visit.
And that was
the first time that she had
been back down there.
And she took me
to the house, the country,
visiting her childhood
when we was there.
Because she was--
you know,
you're able to walk without
shoes on when you're
in the country, you know.
And walking, and--
And she is talking about all of
the things that she remembered.
Because all she could
visit in that place
was her childhood,
because she had no other
connections to it.
And then she wound up
moving back there.
She moved down to Wilmington.
She became active
in the church.
I don't want to use
the word "religious"
because that wasn't her.
But she still had
this thing in her
about the taking of a life.
It's like she
had to help folks
from that point on.
She had to help folks.
And she did a lot of cooking
in a home for people, you know,
for the church and whatever
because they loved her cooking,
and she was traveling
with the bishop.
the church, and became
a celebrity in the church.
And how could I say--
she found her salvation.
[Helen] I was
over there in Rikers.
And I said, "Well,
Helen, you got to
get yourself together.
It's done.
You done put yourself
in it now.
You got to get
your mind--
you got to get yourself
together mentally
to accept what you've done."
And the lawyer came over
and talked to me.
He came to see me.
[child] Sweet grains.
[Helen] Oh, okay.
And he said that
what was going on,
he was waiting for
the right lawyer.
And--
[man] Hey, little guy.
How you doin'?
[high-pitched noise]
[Larry Thomas] And then
So we had to
stop the conversation
at that point.
We had to stop
the conversation.
So at that point, I said,
"Can I come back and finish?"
You know, because we really
weren't finished.
And she said, "Sure."
And that was in February, 1996.
And March, 1996, she died.
[Billy] I just
couldn't believe it.
All the musicians were,
of course,
just befuddled.
Didn't know what to think.
Because they were
both together.
They were always
the people who we
related to, both of them.
[Larry Ridley] I was mad
for a long time.
You know, "How can she
do that to my brother,
Lee Morgan," you know.
"If I ever see her,
I don't know,
I'm gonna give her
a piece of my mind."
You know, I was really angry.
I went through that
for a while.
And I was always wondering,
"What am I going to do
when I finally come
in contact with her?"
And it was interesting because
I was playing at a club
called the Needle's Eye.
And this is after she
finally got out of jail
and she was released.
And she was in the club.
And I was playing there.
And she came there specifically
to see me because she--
you know, we were all
very close, you know.
And I had all this anger
that had been built up.
And when I saw her,
and the expression
on her face ,
and the vibe I got from her,
I couldn't do anything
but open my arms open.
And she came and just started
hugging me and she was crying.
And she said,
"Larry, I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't mean to do it."
That's what she said to me.
And you know, like,
all of that anger
and everything just went away.
[jazz music playing]
[Paul] I was--
I was very angry.
That was my first response,
anger.
I was angry at her
on somebody
I consider a friend,
and someone who
contributed so much
in his short life,
to our music.
That was my initial feeling,
one of anger.
And yet...
I had a feeling of compassion.
Because I realized that
this was the woman
who literally picked
this man up out of the gutter.
I mean literally, the gutter.
And made it possible for him
to function again as an artist,
as a human being.
[Wayne] Sometimes I am
talking to people now,
and I would say to them,
"You should have
known Lee Morgan,"
you know.
They'll see a picture of him
and say, "Who's this?"
I'll say,"His name
is Lee Morgan."
[jazz music playing]
[jazz music playing]
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