Indictment: The McMartin Trial Page #11

he f***ed a two-year-old boy

in the butt. (courtroom murmuring) Did the defendant say

what he used when he "f***ed this

two-year-old boy,"

to use his words? Freeman:

He said he usually

used baby oil and K-Y Jelly. Rubin:

Mm-hm. Did the defendant

say that anything happened when he used the K-Y

or the baby oil? Freeman:

Yeah. He said if he didn't

use baby oil that, uh, the boy bled. Ah, Mr. Davis. It seems

we have a bit of a problem. What is that, Your Honor? I wanted us to meet

because I think Mr. Freeman

should have an attorney. He told me that he committed

perjury in other cases. When did he tell you this?

Three weeks ago. You're telling me that

you knew before Freeman

got on the stand that he'd perjured himself, and you let him testify

without informing the court?! To be honest with you,

I hadn't considered the fact that he might need

an attorney until now.

(scoffs) You know we face

giving him immunity

or calling a mistrial? Both: Call a mistrial!

You can't let this happen. Do you know how much the state

has spent on this case so far? I don't give a damn

how much it cost! It's a mistrial!

This is outrageous! You may not give a damn,

but I do and the people

of Los Angeles do. Your Honor...

It is my view

that Mr. Freeman must testify. And the only way to do that

is through immunity. Miss Rubin

planned this all along. Judge:

Mr. Davis,

my ruling will stand. So, when Freeman came

to you with his problem,

what'd you say? "Don't worry, George, get your

garbage in. I'll protect ya"? I said nothing of the kind. And let's not

go public with this, please. The district attorney's office

and the judge are sayin'

to George Freeman, "Go ahead, lie.

Perjure yourself.

You won't be prosecuted." But there's one thing they

cannot grant him immunity on,

and that is murder! Reporter:

Murder? George Freeman

committed a murder? Why wasn't he indicted?

Why not? Why do you think he

wasn't indicted? Are you suggesting

a deal was made

not to indict Freeman if he agreed to testify

against Ray Buckey? I'm not suggesting anything.

You draw your own conclusions. But George Freeman

is the prosecution's

super-duper, whopper jumbo

cheeseburger deluxe

with extra special sauce! Now, either you swallow it,

or you have a delicate stomach and it smells bad,

you don't go near it. It doesn't make any difference

because before this is over, I am gonna convict

George Freeman

of that murder! Thank you.

No more questions.

(all clamoring) You don't have anything

on this murder, do you?

Not a thing, are you kiddin'? The star witness

in the McMartin molestation

trial, George Freeman, was arrested this morning

when he failed

to show up in court. Sheriff's deputies

tracked Freeman down here, to his sister's house

in the San Fernando Valley, where he had gone into hiding. They found him squatting

behind a number of boxes

in the garage. He surrendered to the deputies

without incident, and is expected to appear

in court tomorrow morning. Danny:

You're upset with me,

aren't you? You know I am.

Did it disturb you,

what I said about getting you

convicted of murder?

I don't care. Mr. Freeman,

have you ever been convicted of what might be called

"willful cruelty to children"? Yeah.

Isn't it true

that you once tied up your

mother and sister, burglarized other parts

of the house, and left them tied up? Only God would know, right? Right. Mr. Freeman, do you have any credibility,

in your own opinion? No. Well, that's all.

Thank you. Danny:

Did you appear on a program

in which Wayne Satz announced that 60 children

were making allegations

against Raymond Buckey before the case had even gone

before the grand jury? I believe I did. Danny: Didn't it concern you

that you might be compromising the investigation

of the case? Yes, it did,

and I was very upset by it. And I told Mr. Satz so. You were so upset about it

that you moved in with him.

Is that right? Objection, Your Honor.

Miss McFarlane's

intimate relations are not an issue

in this trial.

Sustained. Do you think you're qualified

to judge whether a child

has been molested or not? Objection! Miss McFarlane

is not on trial here, even if Mr. Davis would

like to put her on trial. Danny:

What is Miss Rubin afraid of? Miss McFarlane was touted

by the DA's office as their expert witness,

going around the country

giving speeches. What's happened all of

a sudden? Are you afraid

she won't pass muster? Objection overruled. Thank you, Your Honor.

Answer the question, please. Do you think

you're qualified? Since I've spent the majority

of my professional life devoted to the subject,

I think so, yes. What is your educational

background as far

as diagnosing children? I have a Master's Degree

in social work from

the University of Maryland. Did the curriculum include

any study in child abuse?

Yes. Oh. What portion

dealt with that? Well, it's a liberal arts

program with psychology, sociology, and those

basic courses cover children. Well, have you ever

treated children

in the psychiatric sense? I don't understand

what you mean. You know what psychiatric is.

Have you ever heard of that?

Psychiatric? Objection. Would you

instruct Mr. Davis to stop harassing the witness? I think if this witness

doesn't know what

psychiatric means, and she has presented

herself as an expert, then the court ought to know

about that. Don't you think? Objection overruled.

Thank you, Your Honor. Answer the question, please.

Have you ever treated children in a psychiatric sense?

No. How have you treated them? I've treated them

as a social worker. You worked in Maryland

and New Jersey and California.

Is that right? Yes.

Were you licensed

in New Jersey or Maryland? Not licensed. Are you licensed

in California?

No. You are not licensed

to work as a therapist or a social worker

in any state, are you? That's correct.

Danny:
Thank you. Where'd you learn

these techniques that you

used with these children? Kee:

From working with families

and attending virtually every conference

on child abuse in the country. I don't know of any library

that's more extensive

than my own on the subject. Permission to approach

the witness, Your Honor. And I would like to mark into

evidence defense exhibits... KK-LL.

KK-LL. Your Honor. Thank you. You use dolls like these?

Yes. Why? Kee:

To familiarize the children

with their body parts so they're able

to talk about it. It's very difficult for them

to say the words. Some of them aren't

even able to articulate

what's happened to them. How do you know anything

happened to them?

I made a determination. Some of them were in your

office only a few minutes before you undressed

these dolls.

How could you tell? By the way they were acting. By their not wanting

to talk about it. Did it ever occur to you

that they didn't talk about it because nothing happened?

Something happened

to them, Mr. Davis. You used different dolls

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