Indictment: The McMartin Trial Page #13

Your Honor...

What power trip? Mr. Davis...

A halo around your head. On Oprah every afternoon

at 3:
00. You were on a role,

weren't you? Your Honor, objection!

Judge:

Mr. Davis! That's enough.

Objection sustained. Thank you, Your Honor.

I have no more questions. Reporter:

Raymond Buckey has now

spent five years in jail without bail, a new record

in California history which has generated criticism

in legal circles. But today,

in a major defense victory, Judge Pounders

has granted him that bail and placed him in the custody

of his attorney, Daniel Davis. (reporters clamoring) How does it feel to be out?

Ray! Ray! Come on, Ray, speak! (clamoring continues) Danny: Come on, Mr. Buckey.

You know you're a pedophile. You can't cut it

with anyone but children because you can make them

do anything you want. Please answer the question,

Mr. Buckey!

Stop it! Stop it! I can't take this anymore.

All right, all right.

Cool down. This is the kinda crap

that they're gonna keep shoveling at you

all day long tomorrow. And you've got to look

every one of those jurors

in the eye, Ray. You keep lookin' away

from 'em. I need you to connect

with every single one of them. I can't do that.

Why not?

What are you afraid of? I just spent the last

five years in jail.

All right, here we go. I don't know how

to behave anymore. I mean, here's this woman

who tells lies about me and puts my mother

behind bars and then rips the skin

off me every chance she gets. How do I know I'm not

just gonna jump out of

the witness box and strangle her

or burst into tears? Because that's exactly

what she wants you to do. Okay, you told me

what you're afraid of. You wanna know

what I'm afraid of? I'm afraid... that I'm just

a back alley lawyer. I represent drug dealers

and scumbags for a living. I'm afraid Lael Rubin

and Ira Reiner and the entire DA's department

is just gonna eat me alive. But I've got one thing

they haven't got, Ray. I've got you. And the only thing

you've got... is me. So tomorrow,

I'm gonna swallow my fear and I'm gonna get up there

and I'm gonna fight 'em. And you're gonna

tell them something they haven't heard

in that courtroom yet

in this trial, Ray. You're gonna

tell them the truth. And the jury is either

gonna believe us

or they aren't, son. If they believe us, Ray, you're gonna be a free man. And if they don't...

Yeah. You understand?

I understand. Mr. Buckey, you've heard

all these children... Rubin:

...accuse you

of sodomizing them, of killing animals, of threatening

to kill their parents

if they told anyone. Were all these children lying? No. Not all of them.

What do you mean,

not all of them? Well, I think some

of the children were lead to believe

these things happened. Permission to approach,

Your Honor?

Judge:
Granted. Do you recognize

these pictures? What's the matter?

You afraid of them? Look at them.

Pick them up. Will you tell

the jury what's

on the first one, please? It's a picture of a man

giving oral sex to a woman. Why did you keep it? Self gratification. You masturbated with them,

did you not? Will you tell the jury

how you did that, please? What do you mean?

Isn't it true

that you pasted this to the window

of your apartment

and masturbated on the bed in a position where people

in the street could

see you as they walk by? No, that's not true.

That's not what two

of your neighbors said. You can't see into

my bedroom from the street. You think a person

who does this

should work at a preschool? I don't think it has anything

to do with the preschool. Then why did you tear this up

when the police came? Why did you flush it

down the toilet? I was afraid of what they

might make out of it. What might they

make out of it? What you're trying

to make out of it now. Isn't it true that you

regularly sat facing

the wading pool at the preschool

in your shorts

without any underwear with your genitals

exposed to the children? No. That isn't true.

I didn't wear underwear, but my shorts came

halfway down my thighs. You're a normal heterosexual

typical young man.

Is that true, Mr. Buckey? I don't know if there

is such a thing, Miss Rubin. Isn't it true that the only

gratification you have

ever had or ever will have

is with these children,

Mr. Buckey? That you are incapable

of having satisfactory sex

with a grown woman? (sighs) I may have done some

stupid things in my life. And I am far from perfect,

but I have never

had sex with a child. I've never hurt a child. And I have had

satisfactory sex with

a grown woman, Miss Rubin. Mmm-hmm. Do you have an interest

in pyramids, Mr. Buckey? Danny:

Objection. Irrelevant.

Judge:
Overruled. What are pyramids? They're supposed

to have a positive effect on living things. It helps you sleep

if you put one over your bed.

It's just a fad. Did you fly to a convention

where pyramids were sold? Objection. Your Honor,

I think we better approach,

if we may, please? Very well. Your Honor, I must object. Miss Rubin is trying

to convert pyramids into pentagrams and turn

my client into Dracula. You categorize Peggy Buckey

as a caring teacher. Would a caring person allow

somebody who abuses drugs and flies off

to pyramid conventions

to work at her school? Objection overruled.

Continue. Permission to approach,

Your Honor?

Granted. Is this a picture of you

at a convention

holding a pyramid? Yes.

You see the woman

on the right-hand side of the photograph? Ray:

Yes. Danny:

Who is Diana Sullivan? (sighs)

I told you about her. We had an affair. She told two investigators

otherwise. I don't see what it matters

whether or not I slept

with her. Well, I think the DA

is gonna bring her here and get her to tell the jury

that you don't

have sex with women. And it's going

to hurt us, Ray. I don't think she'll do that.

Oh, really? Why is that? Because, what, you've

become a secret stud

all of a sudden? Ray? I just...

I don't think she'll do that. Ms. Sullivan, did you

ever tell someone in 1984 that you had never had sex

with Raymond Buckey?

Yes. Who was it?

My fiancee. And to the investigators that

interviewed me

seven years ago. And why did you

tell them that? Because I wanted to protect

my reputation and my marriage. And in the last few weeks,

did some people associated

with Miss Rubin's office come and visit you

at your home in Montana? Yes. Danny: Would you tell us

what they did, please? They wanted to speak

to me about my testimony. They questioned me

in front of my children. My kids thought

I was gonna go to jail. What did they want? They wanted assurances

that I would testify that I never had sex

with Mr. Buckey. Danny:

And did you and Raymond Buckey

in fact have sexual relations? Yes.

Danny:

Thank you. That's all. Would you describe yourself

as promiscuous? No. I really don't think so. Have you been enjoying

the publicity you've been getting

from this trial? No. I know my children

are gonna read about it

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