Ivory Tower Page #5
and he thinks that we should
become like other colleges.
of words like sustainability.
I'm here before you
because the very survival
of this institution is at stake.
We do not have a sustainable budget.
If you want free education,
how are you going to structure it?
I believe it's not compatible
with small class size,
highly-interpersonal interaction,
and with providing
good compensation to people,
and I believe in providing
good compensation.
The President makes in excess
of $700,000 as total compensation.
At a school of only 1,000
students in tight financial times,
would have been some proportionality.
I believe the President
of Harvard makes $899,000,
and she's overseeing
12,000 faculty, 21,000 students,
and $30 billion endowment.
She doesn't have a fraction
of the problem we have.
Not a fraction of the problems we have.
Apparently we are the Harvard
of Astor Place.
I don't think that the model
of free education doesn't work.
There's all sorts of things
that got us into this mess,
and it wasn't the cost
of educating the students.
Most of higher education
believes in growth at all costs,
growing their way out of difficulty.
And that becomes rather problematic
when you are building
a building at about $1,000 a square foot,
which is more than a luxury hotel.
It's possible to have downsized,
as Cooper Union has done in 150 years
of ups and downs in the market.
But that was not the decision
that was made.
Do you think
it was wise to invest in hedge funds
and to use the money borrowed
in the $175 million loan for that purpose?
You know, I'm not an investment person.
I mean, I'm...
Uh...
I'm good at budgets,
but I'm not an investment person.
Were they risky decisions?
Well, uh.
One can ask if they were or not,
but there is no question
that loan is a, uh...
Yes, a challenge
for the institution to pay back.
mortgage payment of $10 million a year.
It's a terrible irony that
an institution which was
supposed to get people out of debt
gets into that kind of debt itself.
The idea that Cooper Union
would think about charging tuition
really seemed like such a huge betrayal
and a bellwether of where education is.
Students are not seen as
having a right to their education,
and institutions sort of feel free
to continue to raise the price.
What's happening
to higher education in this country?
Why is it seen as being the province
of the rich and the rich alone?
People are ignoring all of the functions
that education has served
throughout our history as a public good.
Certain economic truths
have become self-evident.
Among these,
the right to a good education.
Right after
the Second World War,
the GI Bill was passed,
which made it possible for men,
who would never have been
allowed to walk onto a college campus,
except perhaps as members
of the custodial staff or as delivery boys,
to actually walk through
the gates as students.
Over two million
veterans took advantage of the GI Bill.
This was an opportunity that was free,
given by the government.
And it made a difference to
the American middle class.
That expansion
of the franchise of higher education
was really so unprecedented,
and it led directly
to the Higher Education Act of 1965,
creating the Federal
student aid programs.
This law means that a high school senior
can apply to any college
and not be turned away
because his family is poor.
But the rug was pulled out
from under students in the 1970s.
We shifted from seeing
education as a public good
to seeing it exclusively
as a private good.
Conservative governors, especially
Governor Reagan of California,
had really run on the idea that
higher education was a wasteful
way to spend taxpayer money.
Governor Reagan actually said
the state should not
subsidize intellectual curiosity.
And he ran for president later
on a promise to disband
the Department of Education.
Certain advisors
started to say that
anything of a private advantage
should be paid for.
The word free is one of
the most misused words.
We speak of "free education."
Education isn't free. It costs money.
If this is something
that is going to be good for individuals
to get a job and earn more money,
they should finance it
and make the investment themselves.
We need to keep government
on the sidelines.
Let the people develop their own skills,
solve their own problems.
We stopped expanding
the franchise of higher education,
graduation rates stopped rising,
and access for the poor
to higher education started going down.
In the 1970s, a Pell Grant was
more than enough to pay for tuition
at an average state institution.
But today a Pell Grant
pays for a fraction of tuition.
This led to the growth of
the student loan industry,
which ended up being the largest
source of money for all of tuition.
The student loan program
was never intended to be this large.
We've just hit
an awful milestone.
Our nation's combined
student loan debt has now hit $1 trillion.
It's now larger than
credit card debt in this country.
The average
American student now
graduates more than $25,000 in debt.
STEFANIE GRAY:
I grew up in a low-income household.
I was always told to work hard,
and if you follow your dreams,
it will pay off,
and if you need to go
into educational debt
to achieve those dreams, then so be it.
A couple of months after I graduated,
collectors started calling,
and I told them that I could not pay.
Even with a master's,
I couldn't get a job
cleaning toilets at a local hotel.
I was on food stamps.
I was living off mostly beans and rice.
Twenty years ago,
we would have said
all the kids who aren't going
to college are being the victims,
and now it's actually turning out that
a lot of the kids who are going to college
are also the victims.
It's like a subprime mortgage
broker that ripped you off
and talked you into buying
a house you couldn't afford.
Education in some ways
is even more insidious than housing.
There actually isn't the same kind of
safety valve in the student loan market
that you see in the mortgage market,
in the sense that
there's no such thing as foreclosure,
and, in fact,
there's no such thing as bankruptcy.
Over half of loans today
are either in deferment,
or else they're in default.
And when you default
on your student loans,
interest is applied to the principal.
And you see, very commonly, things like
original balances in the tens and
twenty thousands of dollars
ballooning up into
the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Starting off, $78,000.
Ending up at $106,000 in interest alone.
You're going to be saddled with that debt
and that ballooning balance
until the day that you die.
That's the kind of garbage
our government is playing
with our young people.
The government will make
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