Judgment at Nuremberg Page #9

from Stuttgart...

it is stated that your mother suffered

from hereditary feeble-mindedness.

That is not true!

Can you give us some clarification...

as to how the Hereditary Health Court

in Stuttgart arrived at that decision?

It was just something they said

to put me on the operating table.

- It was just something they said?

- Yes.

Mr. Petersen, there was a simple test...

that the Health Court used to ask

in all cases of mental incompetence.

Since you say they did not ask you then...

perhaps you can answer it for us now.

Form a sentence out of the words

"Hare," "Hunter," "Field."

Your Honor, objection.

Was the court in Stuttgart

constituted like this one?

I don't understand what...

Was there an audience?

An audience? Yes.

Thank you.

Objection overruled.

"Hare," "Hunter," "Field."

Take your time.

They had already made up...

When I walked into the court,

they had made up their minds.

They put me in the hospital, like a criminal.

I could not say anything.

I could not do anything.

I had to lay there.

My mother...

what you say about her...

She was a woman,

a servant woman who worked hard.

She was a hardworking woman...

and it is not fair what you say.

Here.

I want to show you. I have here her picture.

I would like you to look at it.

I would like you to judge.

I want that you tell me...

was she feeble-minded?

My mother!

Was she feeble-minded?

Was she?

I feel it is my duty

to point out to the tribunal...

that the witness is not in control

of his mental processes.

I know I am not. Since that day.

I've been half I've ever been.

The tribunal does not know

how you were before.

It can never know.

It has only your word.

Court is adjourned.

That's one problem we have

with the prosecution.

It's filled with young radicals like Lawson.

Is that what Lawson is? A young radical?

He was a personal protégé of FDR.

FDR had a few friends who weren't radicals,

didn't he?

Name one.

Wendell Wilkie.

Is he your idea of a conservative?

As a matter of fact, Dan,

I've been wondering how you stand.

I'll clarify that for you, Curtiss.

I'm a rock-ribbed Republican...

who thought that Franklin Roosevelt

was a great man.

One of those?

Max!

- Max Perkins. You know him?

- No, I don't think so.

He's with the United Press.

Max, what are you doing here?

I thought you might kick up a row

or something.

I haven't had that much to drink.

- I'm sorry, this is Judge Ives.

- Hello.

- Mrs. Ives.

- How do you do?

- How do you do?

- Judge Haywood, Mrs. Bertholt.

- We have met.

- Yes, we have.

Won't you join us for a drink?

We would like to very much.

- Max, will you sit here?

- Thank you.

Incidentally, Max, I admired your article

on Mrs. Bertholt very much.

It was straight reporting.

Her defense of her husband

was quite eloquent.

Are you going to do a story on these trials?

I'll tell you something frankly, Judge.

At the moment, I couldn't give a story away

on the Nuremberg Trials.

What do you mean, Mr. Perkins?

The American public

just isn't interested anymore.

But the war's only been over

two years, Mr. Perkins.

That's right.

- May I take your order?

- Yes. See what the ladies will have.

How about some more beer, Dan?

No. I think I've had my fill of beer.

I'd like to try something else, if I may.

Why don't you try some Sonnenberg,

or Schwalbenwinkel? It's the local wine.

- Sonnenberg or...

- Schwalbenwinkel.

Yes, I think I'd like that.

Some Schweissenwinkel.

- Will you have some?

- Yes, thank you. I'll have the same.

- Should we stay with the beer, Max?

- Fine.

Thank you.

- You got home all right the other night?

- Yes, thank you.

I don't know what I would have done

without the car.

You speak English very well, Mrs. Bertholt.

Thank you. My husband and I

spent three years in America.

I hope you had a chance

to see something of Nuremberg.

I'm afraid mainly the road between my house

and the Palace of Justice.

And then some places that have to do

with the case, the historical aspects.

The Nazi aspects.

You should see some of the other parts

of Nuremberg.

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