Kim Dotcom: Caught in the Web Page #10

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but a massive hard drive

of infringing material.

[Greg] Christine Gordon represents

the United States of America.

She has to be, I'm sure,

tutored by the DOJ,

and the United States has gotten

every ounce of

effort out of her.

We have some good glimpses

of how the respondents

thought and acted

behind the scenes.

We have some highly revealing

communications between them.

As Mr. Ortmann privately put it,

copyright owners would find,

and these are his words

that now follow.

"We are not the dumb pipe

we claim to be."

Bram van der Kolk marveled at

the position they had attained,

and these are his words:

"If copyright holders would really

know how big our business is,"

they would surely try

to do something against it.

They have no idea that

we are making millions

"in profit each month."

Ortmann told van der Kolk,

and these are

Mr. Ortmann's words:

"We did some things right.

We allowed fraud for a long

time, fueling our growth."

[Greg] I was startled.

I mean,

the whole court shuts up.

Everybody stops

because they're startling.

[Christine] On or about

August 16, 2010, via Skype,

Dotcom told Ortmann in

German, Mr. Dotcom's words:

"At some point, a judge will be

convinced about how evil we are,

and then we're in trouble."

[man] Objectively translated,

it should read,

"Because at some stage,"

a judge will be talked into

how bad we allegedly are,

"and then it will be a mess."

The United States had

the ability to select

what evidence

it wanted to present,

and we sat and cherry-picked it.

It was very selective and biased

about the evidence it picked

and placed before our court,

and a lot of the conversations

were also in a foreign language.

They were in German,

and as a result, the United

States relied on translations

which we were able to show were

incorrect and, in fact, misleading.

Your Honor should also

have received this morning

a bundle that looks like this.

Part of section 101(B) is set out

in the submissions at page 65.

[man] It's the 21 October

red bundle, sir.

[Dotcom] And you need to understand

that this judge was spammed

with thousands of

pages of submissions

by the U.S. government.

They basically

drowned him in material,

and I knew he didn't understand

anything about the case.

He had no clue about

the Internet, about copyright.

At one point in one hearing,

he asked if Mega

was cow storage?

Not cloud storage, cow storage.

[Ron] It was

a pretty frustrating hearing.

We had prepared over many hours,

and we had committed significant

human and financial resources

into mounting

what we thought was

a very credible defense

to extradition,

and most of our arguments

were marginalized

or not even considered

by the court.

[Judge] The overwhelming

preponderance of evidence

produced by the applicant

in the Record of Case

and its supplements

establishes a prima facie case

to answer for all respondents

on each of the counts.

The decision has found

that all four respondents

are all eligible

for extradition.

Therefore, the sentence...

[indistinct]

[man]

Time has passed by Megaupload.

There's always gonna be people

who wanna pirate,

and there's always gonna be

these services,

but are they

gonna be mainstream?

I would argue no.

Piracy is in decline.

But, they told us

all along, the tech side said,

"Hey, if you make it easy"

to get our hands on

at a cheap price,

it's easily accessible,

"there's not gonna be any piracy,"

and that's what they did.

They've gotten the message.

[Greg] What good is it

to throw him in jail now?

Find out what the guy knows.

Make a partnership with him.

You got his money,

and I'd say the smart move is,

right, like the godfather.

Keep your friends close

and your enemies closer.

They should be doing that.

While we have

perfectly good reason

to want to prevent

piracy of content

and allow artists and the

companies that support them

that make a profit

off of what they do,

the mechanisms that we're using

to try and enforce these things

are also mechanisms

for censorship

and for oppression of

freedom of thought,

and it's a slippery slope.

That's a dangerous thing.

[seagulls squawking]

[Dotcom] It's not about

what's right any more.

It's about winning at all cost.

They wanna drag me down.

To win, that's all

that matters to them,

but they picked the wrong guy

because you can't drag me down,

and I will win.

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

Treat me like

The worst thing

You ever seen

Treat me like

The worst thing

You ever seen

I know you don't love me

But you don't have

To be so cruel

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so cruel

Treat me like

A lowdown stupid fool

Treat me like

A lowdown stupid fool

Was letting go

Just sing a song

And now it's over

Call off the line

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

Treat me like

The worst thing

You ever seen

Treat me like

The worst thing

You ever seen

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so bad

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so bad

Treat me like

The worst thing You ever had

Treat me like

The worst thing You ever had

I'm so alone

Like I'm gonna die

Just so sad

I cry

I cry

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

Treat me like

The worst thing

You ever seen

Treat me like

The worst thing

You ever seen

Oh sweetness

My love and more

Please don't go

Oh please don't go

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

Treat me like

The worst thing

You ever seen

Treat me like

The worst thing

You ever seen

I know you don't love me

Well you don't have

To be so mean

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

to be so mean

Treat me like

The worst thing

You ever seen

Treat me like

The worst thing

You ever seen

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

to be so mean

I know you don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

I know you don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

I know You don't love me

But you don't have

To be so mean

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