Kim Dotcom: Caught in the Web Page #6

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and there were other things

that he might be into,

and of course, that

turned out to be a lie.

[Dotcom]

One was taken at a resort

called Cape Kidnappers

in Napier,

and I was there

with my family for holiday,

and we had an afternoon

where we had clay shooting,

and the other event

was a similar occasion

in Ireland over 10 years ago.

[Mona] I was almost

seven months pregnant.

I was having contractions,

but that was not my focus.

I just thought to myself,

"Oh, my God, the kids,"

'cause I could see

the guys with their weapons,

with their guns.

How silly is that?

So I was just like, "Can you

please let me go to my kids?"

They're like, "No,

you just have to stand there."

You have to stand there."

I'm like, "I need

to go to my kids."

I need to see my kids.

"Those are my kids in there."

It's 'cause I was just

worried that, you know,

they're gonna come in

their room with their guns.

[man] So you were relying upon

the intelligence information

which the FBI

were providing to you?

- Is that right?

- Yes.

[Ron] The FBI and

the Department of Justice

were involved from

the very outset,

and that's perhaps

not surprising.

What's surprising is how keen

the New Zealand authorities were

just to adopt

what we assume to be

the recommendations

from the FBI.

[Fisher] When they

went in fast and hard,

it was because the police were

under the impression

that there was

this Doomsday device

that was in the mansion

somewhere that would,

if activated, destroy evidence

of wrongdoing

anywhere in the world.

[man] What destruction devices?

Well, the laptop and the iPhone

or the PDA, whatever

it was that was found.

[man] They were not

destruction devices, were they?

What do you expect?

A box with a red button on it?

[dog barking]

[Dotcom]

The mission was to arrest me

as quickly as possible

so that I could not use

any Doomsday device.

In actuality,

it took them 15 minutes

to find me in my own house.

There's never been any such

device, and it was never found.

It was all bullshit.

[helicopter blades whirring]

[man] I think that

the rationale is clear.

It was meant to send

a message around the world.

Don't mess with the United

States on copyright issues.

The only other raid

that I can think of

that sounds similar was the

raid on Osama Bin Laden,

and these are vastly different

levels of importance.

[Jimmy] You know, it

sort of looked like

you were taking down

a South American dictator.

[dog barking]

I thought it was bizarre,

and I thought it was

also quite symptomatic

of how we've gotten into

such an extreme position

around some of these issues.

Things that I might

not even agree with

that Megaupload was doing,

I think warrant proper address

in court and so forth.

It doesn't mean

you need to send helicopters

and masses of teams

with machine guns and so on.

[Dotcom] That's it.

You just made history, man.

It's f***ing huge, man!

[cheering]

Later.

[indistinct murmuring]

OK, bye.

Oh man, this is good sh*t.

[man] They f***ed up!

They f***ed up.

They f***ed up.

They f***ed up.

They f***ed up. They f***ed up.

First tonight,

a ruling in the past hour

on the Kim Dotcom case

as he fights FBI attempts to

extradite him to the United States.

[woman] A high court judge

says search warrants

for the Internet entrepreneur's

Auckland mansion were illegal.

[man] Justice Helen

Winkleman has decided

the warrants used were invalid.

New Zealand police

seized bank accounts

on behalf of the FBI

and took away property

worth millions.

Now they may have

to give it all back.

It's a damning judgment,

illegal,

unlawful, invalid.

Justice Winkleman

doesn't hold back.

[man] Embarrassed about this?

I am, a wee bit.

[woman] Ah, absolutely.

[man] That we appear to

almost be puppets of the FBI.

[Fisher] There was a feeling

that the machinery of state

had been exercised

against Dotcom

in a way that was

unjust or unfair.

[Bryce]

Suddenly, New Zealanders saw

that there was

two sides to the story...

[man] I love you, Com!

[Bryce] ...and maybe this was

the U.S. state bullying someone

that was a spanner in the works

of Hollywood productions.

[camera shutter clicking]

[Bryce] Suddenly, people wanted

to fight against injustice.

Suddenly, he became

a cause celeb.

The war for

the Internet has begun.

Hollywood is

in control of politics.

[Gabriella] There is huge

contradictions in Kim Dotcom.

Even in the face of these

huge legal battles he faces,

he seems to have

a huge sense of humor

and likes to taunt

the U.S. government.

What about free speech,

Mr. President

Say hello to my little friend.

[people screaming]

[Gabriella] I think that

playful attitude is one reason

that a lot of people

who might otherwise be

really skeptical

of what he's done,

knowing that, you know,

the primary driving force

behind many of these companies

is to make money,

nevertheless, kind of,

can appreciate him.

We will make history

It starts with you

[Dotcom] It's quite interesting

that a lobby group

around entertainment content

can get the White House

to move against

an Internet nerd

with military force.

I mean, think about

that for a moment.

Isn't that... It's funny.

And none of it

will change anything.

None of what they have done

has changed anything

to alter the way

the Internet works

or the levels of piracy.

When Megaupload shut down,

in the 18 weeks

following that shutdown,

sales through legitimate

outlets went up six to 10%,

and that's just one site.

It was one of the major

sites at the time,

but that's just one site,

and you saw an uptake of

use of legitimate sites

by an amount of six to 10%.

So that's a really

significant amount

of impact on

the legitimate market.

[Jimmy] You can't really

trust the industry numbers

on that problem,

and you certainly can't trust

the industry's analysis

and understanding

of the operation

of the Internet.

One of the strongest

drivers for piracy

is when people are hearing

all this buzz

about something that

really is fantastic,

but they can't get it legally

in their country,

and then they turn illegally

to download it.

Well, we may disapprove

of that behavior,

but we can't stop that behavior,

and there's actually

a very simple solution

that doesn't involve

sending out S.W.A.T. teams.

It involves, "Hey, change

your business policy."

Everything that you are

selling in one country,

sell it in every country,

and if you don't, don't be surprised

if people are pirating it.

[guns firing]

[Dotcom] I'm an avid gamer.

I play Modern Warfare on Xbox,

and I noticed that

my speed, my Internet speed,

went down by about

20, 30 milliseconds.

[laughing]

And a normal Internet user

would never ever identify that,

but me being a competitive

gamer, I noticed it,

and only after the raid did

I figure out what happened.

They rerouted all my traffic

in a way that

they could capture all my data

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