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differently from other women.

Tell us whatever

you remember about words

that He told you,

that we did not hear.

I will now speak to you about

which you haven't heard.

I had a vision of the Teacher

and I said to Him,

"Lord, I see you now in this vision"

and then He said to me,

"You are blessed,

for the sight of Me

does not disturb you.

There where is the noose

lies the treasure."

And then I said to Him,

"Lord, when someone meets You

in a moment of vision,

is it through the soul

that they see You or is it

through the spirit?"

And He said to me,

"It is neither through the soul

nor the spirit,

but the noose

which sees the vision"

Tell me,

what do you think

about these things?

As for me, I do not believe

that the Teacher, our Teacher

speak like this.

He wouldn't have speak like this.

-That's what I think.

-How is it possible

that the Teacher talk

in this manner,

with a woman about secrets

that we do not know?

Must we change our customs

and listen to this woman?

Did he really choose her

and prefer her to us?

My brother Peter,

what can you be thinking?

Do you believe that I would...?

This is my own imagination?

That I invented this vision?

Or do you believe that

I would lie about our Teacher?

Peter,

you have always been hot tempered,

and now we see

you repudiating a woman

just as our adversaries do.

If the Teacher held her worthy,

who are you

to reject her?

Don't stand there staring,

I mean look at it, it's red on red,

you can't read it, you're a smart

lady, you get paid a lot of money.

Call somebody, get it fixed.

-Well done.

-Thanks very much.

I appreciate you coming.

Thank you very much.

-Very kind of you.

-Excuse me, do you have a moment?

-Don't worry.

-Hi, you did a great job.

A great job. Let me

introduce you to my friend Ted.

-Hi Ted.

-Nice to meet you. Congratulations.

-Think they really liked the movie.

-Yeah, no. It's... it's fascinating.

Marie Palesi, I mean.

How did you get her to do all that?

It was a lot of work, let me

tell you, she's not an easy actress.

-You must feel great, huh?!

-I'll feel better once I'm outa here.

I'm not worried about

the picketing on Friday.

-Do you want a lift to the city?

-Yeah,

yeah, can I meet you outside?

Let me answer a few questions.

-You must have heard of...

-I'll meet you right out front.

I'm not worried about a damn thing,

and you know what?

I think all the protestors

ought to come in the theatre

and watch the movie and make

their minds up, instead of making

judgements about something they

don't know anything about. Thank you.

-Yes, that's quite a film.

-Yeah, thanks.

-It's a good screening.

-Yeah, before I forget,

let me get you my... my card.

Theodore,

you know what that means, right?

God's gift.

God's gift.

I could use one of those.

Always good to have

God on your side.

I like your show, it's good.

Get the opportunity to present

both sides of an argument.

And it's getting good ratings.

Good for you.

-You follow my ratings? Nice.

-Yeah.

I really appreciate it.

I appreciate you... you liking it.

-It means a lot to me.

-You're the man.

It's just television but...

Don't knock television.

Television is where it's at.

My agent's pitching me for a couple

of shows right now, as we speak.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

You know what? I would love

to have you on the show.

We are going to be doing "Jesus from

the Hollywood perspective" showing

art and some film clips.

"Jesus from the Hollywood

perspective", that's funny.

C'mmon, c'mmon, what?

Is it possible or what?

Yeah?

I mean obviously I would show

your film in the best possible way.

I would hope so.

Tony, it would really... be great

for me if you could be on the show.

Alright, let's cut to the chase.

I'll do an interview on your show,

if you come to the premier on Friday

and cover it, live.

Wow. I'd love to do that.

You know, if it were up to me

I'd do it in a heart beat.

Come on. You've got the ratings,

that gives you the power.

I want people to see what's happening

to the First Amendment.

I want people to see

that in New York f***ing city,

people are imposing censorship

on my right to freedom of speech.

I want the f***ing world

to see this.

It's a great idea.

I'm gonna have to talk to the

Network, but it's a great idea.

There's always somebody.

Everybody can be

as independent like you.

If you only knew...

What about Marie? Do you think

we could get Marie on the show?

-Marie?

-Yes.

Marie is busy.

We wanted to take

a short cut to avoid traffic.

It just... it just happened, alright?

Does... does...?

I need some aspirin,

does anyone have any aspirin?

You know, it's... it's...

You know, it's fine, it's fine, ok?

It's fine. This is... You know,

you can't blame these kids anyway

for reacting like that.

Everybody's fighting over bullshit.

I just wish they would just leave me

the f*** out of it. You know what,

why don't I just go on

the air right now, you know,

blood and all and just talk about

this bullshit, 'cos this is bullshit.

-We can't do that. It's not the news.

-Yeah we can.

-Just put some make-up on it.

-You know what? Don't.

Don't fix it. It's fine, it's fine,

I don't need it to be fixed.

Thank you, Dina. Thanks.

But, the question is, can we live

completely and holdly

as a spiritual being

inside of society?

I'd like to ask you,

how do you accomplish... that?

Yeah, yeah.

It's interesting that in the

tradition monastic,

for example tradition of Camaldoli,

there is

strong experience of solitude,

but at the same time there is the

opening to mission,

so to meet other people,

to be able to welcome people.

Seekers,

seekers of God,

or of a meaning of life,

and to be able to be in touch

to welcome, no, with joy...

The person who visits you

is God incarnate,

because God is inside of everyone,

and you have to treat them as if

-that experience is with God.

-But in Jesus

he reveals as

an extraordinary incarnate,

vulnerable,

passionate

and liberating people,

-so that is very important, not this

-The Figure of Christ.

full immersion

and contamination,

I would say, you know?

Contamination that is to say

not God as pure,

separated authentic

by the human condition but

in touch with. You know?

And the experience to Jesus is

to be open to the outcasts,

to the marginalized people,

to the sinners, no? The persons

considered far from God.

And Craving said,

"I did not see you descend,

but now I see you rising,

and why do you lie to me

since you belong to me?"

And the Soul answered, "I saw you,

though you did not see me

nor recognize me.

I was with you as with a garment,

and you never felt me."

I never realized how... how good

she was, you know, she's... God,

she like knocked me out.

Yeah.

She is really good.

She coming back for the premier?

I don't know. I don't think so.

Kidding, right?

I mean,

she's been away

for like a year now.

A year?

A year.

Where is she?

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