Mr. Death: The Rise and Fall of Fred A. Leuchter, Jr. Page #7

what he was doing

was right.

[ Leuchter ]

I testified in Canada

for two reasons.

First, the trial was

an issue of freedom of speech...

and freedom of belief.

As an American,

one who supports

the Bill of Rights,

I believe that Mr. Zndel

has the right to believe

and say what he chooses.

I have this right

in the United States.

Secondly,

Mr. Zndel was not on trial

for a misdemeanor.

This was a major felony.

He could've faced

up to 25 years in prison...

for printing a document

stating that there were

no gas chambers at Auschwitz.

I believe that any man,

no matter what he's done,

has a right

to a fair trial...

and the best

possible defense

that he can muster.

l, unfortunately, was

the only expert in the world

who could provide that defense.

There was no one else.

[ Shapiro ]

I don't think he's naive.

I think he was empowered

by being part of this group.

Who is this guy ?

The bottom line here is,

you got a guy who basically

made a deal with the devil.

[ Zndel ]

Fred Leuchter is a hero.

Not every generation

gets a George Washington

or a Thomas Jefferson.

Our generation's heroes

maybe are more humble.

[ Tabasky ]

Fred got involved in this

and wanted to play this game.

And I think he thought

it was a game at first.

I really believe he did.

How nice to fly to Canada,

to go to Poland,

get paid a lot of money...

and come back

and have a lot of attention...

brought to him.

I think he really dug it.

I think that

he really thought

that that was great.

I pity him.

[ Van Pelt ]

In April 1988,

there was still opportunity

for Fred to redeem himself,

to apologize.

To apologize for having

gone down in that hole.

But he chose not

to consider the evidence...

of his own foolishness.

Holocaust denial

is a story about vanity.

It's a way...

to get in the limelight,

to be noticed,

to be someone.

Maybe to be loved.

I have a sympathy to Fred

who was lost in Auschwitz,

because I think he's lost.

But not anymore

with the Fred who appears

at these conferences.

You're ignored.

You're despised

by many people.

And then there is a home,

and the home is the Institute

for Historical Review.

You make new friends.

Go to one conference,

then you go to

the second one...

and a third and a fourth.

And it's nice to get up

and stand behind a lectern

and have people applaud.

They compare your logic

with that of any

university professor.

Maybe it's about choosing

the right friends.

Please welcome a man

whose work is a mighty blow

for historical understanding.

Mr. Fred Leuchter.

[ Applause ]

My paper is entitled,

The Leuchter Report,

the How and the Why.

In 1988-- 1988 was

a very informative and

likewise disturbing year for me.

I was appalled to learn

that much of what

I was taught in school...

about 20th century history

and World War II...

was a myth,

if not a lie.

I was first amazed

then annoyed

and then aware...

that the myth of

the Holocaust was dead.

[ Shapiro ]

Fred Leuchter

put blinders on himself.

He sat through

all of those speeches and

neo-Nazi rallies in Europe...

as he heard Jews vilified.

Whether he belonged

to a group beforehand...

has no relevance.

He joined and he took part

for many, many years.

I think Fred Leuchter,

when he was called upon,

became one of them.

[ Leuchter ]

I did this, but because

of what I have seen,

I have a compelling urge

and perhaps a responsibility...

to countless generations

who come after me,

a responsibility

to the truth.

[ Man ]

Hear, hear !

[ Applause ]

I thank you,

ladies and gentlemen.

I hope I've lived up

to your expectations.

[ Applause ]

And I will entertain

any questions.

[ Applause Continues ]

[ Zndel ]

The Leuchter Report-- about

There have been

translations.

A Leuchter edition

appeared in Russian.

In Latvia, in Hungary,

in Spanish.

The Leuchter Report

is out there

in dozens of languages.

and, I would dare say,

in millions of copies.

We will not go down

in history...

as being a nation

of genocidal maniacs.

We will not.

We can,

with historical truth,

detoxify a poison planet.

Holocaust Survivors

and Friends...

has asked

the Massachusetts Board

of Registration of Engineers...

to investigate

whether Leuchter

is properly credentialed.

Last week the board's

chief investigator told us...

that Leuchter

is not certified as

an engineer in Massachusetts.

And if he is working

or soliciting business here,

he could be liable

for criminal charges.

[ Leuchter ]

I have no question

that it's a conspiracy.

They even pressured

the engineering board

here in Massachusetts...

into bringing

a criminal complaint

against me...

for practicing engineering

without being registered.

Less than ten percent

of the engineers in the state

are licensed or registered.

But I'm the only one

that was ever prosecuted for

practicing without a license.

Did Christ have a diploma

in Christianity?

Did Marx have a diploma

in Marxism?

Did Adolf Hitler

have a diploma

in national socialism?

No, they did not.

But they knew

one hell of a lot...

about their field.

[ Leuchter ]

I have a half of

a lethal injection machine...

which belongs

to the State of Delaware.

We had a contract to repair

the lethal injection machine...

and to repair their gallows

and write their protocol

for hanging.

I was told that

the deputy attorney general,

Fred Silverman,

would not allow me

to complete the contract.

A conference call

was set up...

between corrections officials

and the deputy

attorney general...

and several

other attorney generals

whom I had worked with...

in terms of the development

of the hanging procedure.

And Fred Silverman told me that

I would not be allowed to deal

with the State of Delaware...

because

I testified in Canada.

They did not pay me...

for the $7,000 work

that I put into the repair

of the machine.

I lost all

of the contract work

for the gallows.

And the State

has effectively said,

"Take the half

of the machine

that you've got...

and stick it someplace."

I put an ad

in the Want Advertiser.

The second week

that the ad was running,

someone saw the ad.

Determined

that the instrument

shouldn't be sold...

because I was the one

that was selling it.

Subsequently,

there was write-ups...

in both major

Boston newspapers...

and pressure was again

applied to the district

attorney's office...

and the attorney general's

office...

to prosecute me

for selling the machine.

And it was necessary

for the attorney general's

office...

to explain in the newspaper

that it is not illegal...

to sell a lethal injection

machine to anybody.

Delaware turned out

to be a major problem,

but I still have their machine.

And anybody who's interested in

buying half a lethal injection

machine can contact me,

and it's available

for the cost

of the repairs.

[ Carol ]

I went a lot of places that

I probably wouldn't have gone.

But basically,

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