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- Oh, is it not interesting, eh?

- I don't like birds dying.

You don't like birds

dying, Okay.

I'm very, very sorry

for upsetting you.

I didn't think it

would do this to you,

but it just shows that you

understand what's going on.

Okay, should we go out now?

Come on, then.

Let's go up there, then.

You learned a lot,

didn't you, because,

being honest,

you need to know as well.

But I'm six years old.

I know you are.

But you need to know as well.

Don't say one more

thing out of your mouth,

you'll make me sad again.

Okay.

[soft instrumental

music playing]

Here we are.

I'll show you a picture of

my dad because this has got

all that type of stuff in there.

That's my dad.

My mum, she was, uh, quite an

attractive woman when she was young.

This is my mum.

That's my mum when

she was young.

So I've got some stamps,

and they're all of nature,

of birds and stuff.

Mostly... My dad

bought most of these.

We've always been a nation

of collectors, haven't we?

There's all these sets here, and

all these that my mum got me.

1974, like, happy

birthday from my mum,

you know, first-day issues

and all that.

When my mum and dad

were together

there was always people,

lots of people there, you know,

because my mum was

quite popular.

She was good at handling

people, as well, in her job.

So she had a knack of getting

on with people, which, uh,

is quite a good skill to have because

I haven't quite got that skill.

Hold that for five breaths.

Jump the feet to the hands.

Bend the legs.

I had a female friend of mine that was a

yoga instructor of mine a few years ago.

And when I got caught, of

course, it was in the papers.

And, uh, she was really

pissed off at me, basically,

and I was kicked out of there.

I was told to leave.

When I began to find out what

yoga's really about...

You live your life

as a person, I started

to have conflicts with myself

about the taking of eggs.

If you really, uh, are a

real practitioner of yoga,

it's about what you do in life. It's

not just what you do on the mat.

It's about not harming wildlife

or being violent with people.

Come, Boy.

Come out, then.

Sometimes I think

I'm misunderstood,

but I do fall out

with people, you know?

I look after my little

pet, my little Boy here.

I look after him properly

because I love him.

Hmm.

[bird chirping]

I think he has emotions, but I don't

know if he has a conscience or not.

And I think taking a clutch

of eggs can distress the hen.

Mothers and fathers love

their children, don't they?

I did fall out with my dad

a lot when he got older.

I didn't write him

a letter from jail.

So I decided I'm

going to go and see me dad

when I get out because

I hadn't seen him for a while.

And he's very old.

I remember, I kissed him

goodbye on the cheek,

you know, and that

was the last time

I actually saw him because

two months later, he died.

My sister phoned up.

Jane says, "Dad's died."

So, um, I'm glad I saw him

when I got released from jail.

It was like me saying

goodbye to him in a way.

I'm getting a little bit upset,

but he got found on the toilet.

[chuckles]

It's not unusual. They get found

on the toilet when they're old.

And my sister-- He got

found on the toilet.

But I'm glad I saw him when I

got out of jail to say goodbye.

And he did say to me, he said, "Don't

do it anymore, Matthew." You know.

I don't collect eggs anymore.

The same as my mum. She didn't

agree with the egg collecting,

but she knew why I'd done it.

[upbeat instrumental

music playing]

Five, six...

Because you have lots of

ups and downs in your life

and that, I needed to get rid of some

of that tension that I was having.

And when I started

back taekwondo,

I'm finding that I'm

much calmer these days

because I'm looking

forward to my classes.

And it helps me

to focus my mind.

My mom was always wanting

me to get me black belt.

And that was another reason

that when I packed in,

I was about three gradings

off black belt.

So I felt as though I

let my mom down a bit.

I help him as much as

I can, but I just worry

about him when I'm not around.

I just want to know that he

has got something behind him.

Say that he needs the chance.

He needs the opportunity.

Just add to it, like, he needs just somebody

to give him a break and give him a chance.

He needs someone to be behind

him, to give him a break

and reconsider to

give him a license.

I want to achieve my black

belt. It's not just for saying,

I'm a black belt,

and I can go out

and I can do this,

that, and the other.

It's because it's a goal.

And that's what I want

to do in my own life.

I want to achieve goals and

do things and, you know,

just make a better life

for myself and my son.

When we started out

with the documentary,

I had an assistant with

me, Michael Stockton.

I mean, Michael Stockton

is one of my best friends,

but I've got a lot at

stake at the moment.

And I think he's just a

little bit of a loose cannon.

In the past, like, I've been done

through guilt through association.

If he went off the rails

a bit while he was with me

and something happened,

it could jeopardize me.

So sometimes, you've

got to take a step back.

You've got to reflect

on what you're doing.

I know I've done

wrong and that, but I want

to be able to prove to

the authorities, you know,

that I'm now a

trustworthy person.

I'm a changed character.

I think in a completely

different way.

I'm heading in the

right direction,

and, you know, this is my life. And

it's just basically what I want to do.

[camera clicks]

My fear of, um, talking to,

like, documentary about this.

Really, now, you know.

There's a part of me that wished I

hadn't even opened up about this.

But because I've been

honest and I've been open,

and I've got nothing to hide.

And things like that, you know.

I've got a friend who I've known for

a few years who's an antique dealer.

And, um, occasionally,

he gets offered to move,

like, things out of houses.

Somebody had got

in touch with him.

I don't know who it was,

I just got a phone call.

And he said this guy

was dying of cancer.

And I think he was just

trying to tidy things up

to save his wife having to do it when

he's gone, and things like that.

The bloke now is deceased.

And he got this

collection of eggs.

Now, it's illegal to

sell wild bird eggs.

So this guy had give this

collector all these eggs.

But this collector,

um, antique dealer,

didn't want anything

to do with the eggs.

And so he gave me

a call and asked me,

would I be interested

in taking these eggs?

The antique dealer didn't really know

what was there, he hadn't sorted them,

and he didn't want

anything to do with the eggs.

But because, obviously,

he was an antique dealer,

he said he could have made

a few quid out of the cabinets.

So he wanted a small sum

for the cabinets,

and all the eggs

came free and that.

So any road, at the moment,

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