Punk: Attitude Page #5

she soaks up what is going on.

She kind of feels all the political

and economic moods...

and then translates it into her

clothes and everything.

The trousers all come with

a line cloth on the back.

Everybody wants to know why.

It's just a line cloth...

It's just a gesture of

some kind of tribelism really.

You could always point out that maybe

it has some connection with the back...

It goes right round at the back

of the ass as well, I don't know.

The first time I went into Malcolm's

store here in England...

and I saw these bondage pants,

you know, that had...

straps on them, where you were

supposed to strap your legs together...

and it seemed like the dumbest idea in

the world to me. How are you gonna walk?

What, just kinda bounce down the street?

I thought nobody's gonna wear that...

I came back to England about

6 months later...

and all these kids with their

legs strapped together...

bouncing down the street.

I don't think punk would have happened

without Malcolm and Vivian to be honest.

Something would have happened and

it might have even been called punk...

but it wouldn't have looked the way it

did and the look of it was so important.

Saturday afternoon people used to flip

between Hackney Attractions...

and...

Let It Rock...

and John was

one of that crowd.

We arranged for this meeting for him

to come down to meet us for a drink...

and he got the gig.

He said, what are you called,

and we said, the Sex Pistols...

and he said, that's awful.

It's so bad, I love it.

I am the antiChrist

I am an anarchist

We'd been reading about

the Sex Pistols in the NME...

a gig at the St. Martin's

College of Art.

I think it was, the one where someone

shouted out from the audience...

"You can't play"...

and one of them said,

so what?

We read the first...

review of the

Sex Pistols in NME.

Don't look over your shoulder,

the Sex Pistols are coming.

And he said, "Oh look, there's a review

here for this band in London...

who do Stooges songs. "

Nobody did Stooges songs.

They do a version of No Fun

and we thought oooh.

And there's this

fantastic line...

well, we're not into music,

we're into chaos.

Which appealed to Howard.

And it was those 2 things that

kind of went ding, ding with me.

You fill me so with

this big temptation

This kind of feeling

Could destroy a nation

But we successfully saw them twice

the weekend we came down to London.

February 1976.

I said to Malcolm...

"Do you want to come

and play at our college?"

About 100 people

turned up...

and I think we know

that included...

Morrissey, half of Joy Division

and New Order.

Apparently everybody in that

audience started a band...

all 7 million of them.

Ever fallen in love with someone

Ever fallen in love, in love with someone

Ever fallen in love

In love with someone

You shouldn't've

fallen in love with

I can't see

much of a future

Unless we find out who's to blame

What a shame

The 100 Club Punk Rock Festival

was a 2-day event...

that featured bands like the Pistols,

The Damned, The Clash...

Subway Sect and Siouxsie

and The Banshees.

I think that my first reaction

when I went down into the 100 Club...

was I can't believe they've

taken this all seriously.

The formation of the bands

was quite liquid, you know.

One minute Tony James would

be in The Damned...

and the next minute, you know,

Chrissie Hynde would...

you know, we'd all be feeling each other

out, seeing how it went kinda thing, so.

Chrissie was in a early

incarnation of The Damned...

which she, she wanted to call it,

Mike Hunt's Honourable Discharge.

A charming name.

I got a new rose

I got it good

Yes, I knew that

I always would

I can't stop

to mess around

I got a brand

new rose in town

They were more like an American punk

band than the London bands...

which unfortunately they didn't always

have a great sense of humour.

We used to jump from, you know, top of

tall building to another tall building...

to steal a flag, you know...

or to get into someone else's hotel

room to sh*t in their bed, you know.

These things don't happen anymore

unfortunately, you know.

I remember going to see

The Damned, I think...

and I'm walking back with Mark P

who had just started...

was starting this

fanzine "Sniffin' Glue".

You've got to get it down there

and shove it down...

people's throats your ideas...

and if it means being a bit violent,

you know, it's ok, you know.

"Sniffin' Glue"obviously was like

the first Xerox copy fanzine.

It was like an expression

of our own thing...

rather than the more glossy

American magazines, you know.

The first issue of "Sniffin' Glue" put

Blue Oyster Cult on the cover.

Then it had the Sex Pistols

on the cover.

Yeah, The Clash, The Damned

and the Pistols were...

all about the same kind of fame,

stroke, notoriety...

whatever you want to call

it at the time...

until the Pistols were lucky enough

to be invited on the Grundy show...

I mean, anyone could have

gone on and swore.

Joe Strummer could have done it.

I could have...

I'm very good at swearing,

you know.

You've got 5 seconds.

Say something outrageous.

You dirty bastard.

- Again.

- You dirty f***er.

- Well f*** it.

- And that's it for tonight.

I'll be seeing you soon, I hope I won't

be seeing you again. Good night.

I've got to complain to ITV.

I really can't believe the

reaction that it had that...

you know, people kicked their

TV sets in and were outraged.

The filth and the fury.

I mean, you could never predict

that that would go so ballistic.

That's how they leapt across in the,

in the old fame stakes...

and they were the kind...

that was the filth and the fury on

the front pages and all this stuff.

I am an antiChrist

I am an anarchist

Don't know what I want

But I know how to get it

I wanna destroy

The passerby

It went completely mad from that

point on and we all like set off...

I think the next day we set

off on the Anarchy Tour.

The Pistols, ourselves and

Johnny Thunder & The Heartbreakers.

I think we had like 16 dates booked and,

as we went up the motorway...

the dates got

less and less...

and I think we ended

up only doing 4...

and it was back in

time for Christmas.

Do you feel the publicity following

the temps TV has been damaging?

Or you think it's helped you?

I don't think it's been damaging.

Far from it.

Whether it's helping us

is another matter.

You know,

a lot of sh*t had gone down...

and things came to a head

between me and John...

and I'd kinda had enough

at that stage.

Pistols Mark 2 with Sid,

bad mistake.

Nancy went

over to England...

cos Johnny Thunders &

The Heartbreakers came over...

and she was good friends with

them and she met Sid...

and it was apparently

love at first sight.

But they were really bad for each other,

cos Nancy was, you know...

on the dope

for a long time.

I saw that transition of what

that drug can do to people...

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