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is the rule to counting dimpled chads
varies from county to county.
Broward and Miami-Dade
were counting them, Palm Beach was not.
What would you tell them to do about it?
Well, I think
that's a very hard question.
You'd tell them
to count every vote, Mr. Boies.
Yes, I would tell them
to count every vote.
if you're looking for a standard,
then the Texas standard,
if you wanted to specify something,
gives you a pretty good standard.
It says dimpled chads should be counted.
Why isn't the standard the one
that voters are instructed to follow,
for goodness' sake?
I mean, it couldn't be clearer.
Why don't we go to that standard?
Well, your honor,
because in Florida law since 1917,
Darby v. State,
the Florida Supreme Court has held
that where the intent of the voter
can be discerned,
even if they don't do what they're told,
their vote is supposed to be counted.
For the last 80 years
the Florida Court has always ruled
that the right to participate
in the democratic process
is more important than a voter's ability
to follow instructions.
Mr. Boies, let's assume
that at the end of the day
counties used different standards
for making their count.
At that point, in your judgment,
would it be a violation
of the Constitution to say,
"I don't care that they used
different standards as long
as they purported to follow
voter's intent, that's good enough?"
Can we do that?
I'll extend your time
by two minutes, Mr. Boies.
I do not believe that violates
the equal protection clause.
It is impossible
to have uniform standards
when different types of voting machines
and different types of ballots
are used from county to county.
Hand-counting and recounting of ballots
under the "intent of the voter"
standard has been the rule,
not the exception,
in this country for generations...
indeed, since its founding.
It is the moment of truth.
The Supreme Court may
use this moment to determine who is
the next President of The United States.
There are many ways
this decision could go.
The two most commonly discussed
are that the Supreme Court could send...
it could ask Florida
to resume the recount...
Does anyone want to play cards?
It's in!
It's in.
Our long wait is over.
Greta Van Susteren, another CNN legal
analyst, is on the telephone. Greta.
Bernie, what it seems
to say at this point is
that we don't know for sure.
"The closeness of this election
and the multitude of legal
"challenges which..."
- What's that mean?
- Just one moment, Mr. Vice President.
I'm gonna put you on speakerphone,
Mr. Vice President.
- Are you still there, sir?
- Yeah, I'm here.
There are two rulings
in this decision, sir...
the first is a seven-to-two ruling
that there is an equal
protection violation;
and the second ruling is the remedy
to that violation,
which is five-to-four.
Yes, I need to speak
to the Governor, please.
The majority has ruled that since
we missed the December 12th deadline
set by the Florida Supreme Court...
then there isn't time to resolve
the equal protection violation
and therefore the recount must end.
The S.C shuts down the recount
'causing us to miss the deadline.
Then they say that we can't start up
again because we missed the deadline?
That's pretty much it, sir.
What you got, Jim? Seems like nobody
can make sense of this thing.
Congratulations, Mr. President-elect.
- Did you hear that?
- That sounds good.
Ron, you gotta read this.
Right there.
What is it, Ron?
The Court has ruled
that this decision is, quote,
"limited
"to the present circumstances".
Unbelievable.
The Supreme Court has declared
that Bush v. Gore only counts once,
and then it never counts again.
Have they ever done that before?
Never once in the history
of the U.S. Supreme Court.
What do you think, David?
I think the ruling
is intellectually dishonest,
but the point is crystal clear...
the recount is over.
Mr. Vice President,
our battle is not yet done.
The majority ruled that there is
an equal protection violation
because different counties
are counting with different standards.
So let's petition
the Florida Supreme Court
and get them to set
exact counting standards.
Under these circumstances,
they might finally do it.
David?
I think Ron's lost his mind,
but I'll drink the kool-aid.
The Florida House has already voted
to award the state's electors to Bush.
Yeah, but then
we just file two lawsuits...
one to set standards,
the other to halt the legislature.
We can do this, sir.
Ron, nobody can fault you
for not trying...
No, Mr. Vice President.
Please, sir, listen to me.
You cannot concede.
Not yet, sir.
I beg of you, sir,
just give me one more shot.
Klain is gonna petition
the Florida supremes to set standards.
Sometimes a soldier
just can't stop fighting
even when he knows the war is done.
I've run over 25 recounts
and it never ceases to amaze me...
the extent that democrats will lie,
cheat and steal to win an election.
I mean, if we hadn't played hardball,
they would've stolen this one too.
Now, Ben, I was a democrat
till I was 40 years old.
I have always wondered
why you switched parties.
My wife passed away... cancer.
I'm so sorry.
Thank you.
Yes, she was...
she was too young.
A very close friend of mine,
who happened to be a republican,
was running for senate
and told me to come work on his campaign
to take my mind off the grief.
I told him I had never worked
in politics before,
and I was a democrat to boot,
but he didn't care. He just...
he just didn't want
to see me sad all the time.
That's a good friend.
He sure is.
The Vice President's on the phone.
- Good morning, Mr. Vice President.
- Hey, Ron.
What can I do for you, sir?
I couldn't sleep last night.
I just couldn't stop thinking,
but then I remembered
what a wise man once said to me.
He said that I have to end this war
when I know I can't win.
Ron,
I can't win.
Even if I win,
I can't win.
I'm sorry, sir. I...
I just...
I just couldn't get them counted.
I'll never forget
what you did for me, Ron.
I will never forget.
Thank you, Mr. Vice President.
Ron, we should still file the petitions.
Let's just see if it works.
We've come this far, Ron.
We can't quit now.
Yeah, we can keep
fighting this thing, man.
I want to tell you all
what an honor it's been to work
with such a dedicated and focused group
as you have all proved to be.
I'm enormously grateful
for everything you did.
But it's time for us to stop.
People are going to say all kinds
of things about this election...
That it was down to 154 votes,
that Bush's brother was the Governor,
that the U.S. Supreme Court
gave it to us,
but I want you to remember
that we won every single recount.
Never once did we trail Gore.
And who knows how many votes we lost
when the networks
called Florida for Gore
before all the polls
were closed on election night?
But more important than all that
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