Rules Of Engagement Page #8
the enemy will be warned first,
then asked to surrender.
Colonel, did you warn
the enemy?
We arrived in helicopters.
We were standing on that roof armed.
Did you warn them, either with shots
into the air or by a loudspeaker?
Did you ask them
to surrender?
No.
I'm sorry, no, you did not
warn the crowd?
Yes. No, I did not
warn the crowd.
Continue, Colonel.
You seem to know them by heart.
Deadly force
is the last resort.
- Go on.
- Three.
When possible, try to arrange
for the evacuation of civilians...
prior to any U.S. attack.
Did you do that, try
to evacuate the innocent people...
before you slaughtered them?
Objection. That is inflammatory.
- Rephrase, Major.
Did you try, following Section C
ofthe rules of engagement...
for ground conflict in urban areas,
to evacuate innocent civilians?
- No.
- No.
Yeah, yeah.
I just have
one more thing, Colonel.
Did you have to repeat
your orders to Captain Lee?
- I'm sorry?
- You ordered Captain Lee...
to engage hostile targets,
and he advised you...
that there were women and children
in the line of fire.
- Is that correct?
- He couldn't see...
Yes or no, Colonel? Didhe
follow your first set of orders?
I don't remember.
Captain Lee is on record
as saying he hesitated...
and mentioned the snipers
in the buildings.
- Is his testimony accurate?
- I don't remember.
Let me get this straight.
You evacuate
the ambassador.
You go back to the roof.
Two of your marines are K.I.A.
A third,
Sergeant Krasevitch, dies.
"You give your captain
an order which he doesn't follow;"
in fact, he questions.
And then you said what?
I don't remember.
You don't remember
what you said next?
It was combat,
not some training exercise.
A moment later,
your men were shooting.
What did you say
to make that happen?
I don't know.
You must have said something.
Captain Lee reversed himself.
- What did you say?
- I don't know the exact words.
- Let me help you.
- Your Honor.
You said, "Waste the motherfuckers,"
didn't you?
- No, no, no.
- You didn't say it?
- It all happened so fast...
- You're under oath, Colonel!
Let me refresh
your memory.
This is exhibit "ry" a tape
recording made aboard...
the U.S.S. Wake Island of all radio
communications received that day,
including your exact words.
Your Honor, with your permission
I would like to play this tape.
If you got it on tape,
then that's what I said!
They were killing my marines,
so, yeah, I said it!
Waste the motherfuckers!
- Are these "the motherfuckers"?
- Objection.
- Overruled.
- Yes!
- These?
- Objection!
Yes!
- These?
- Objection!
- Overruled.
- Yes.
Are these "the motherfuckers"...
that you ordered to be wasted?
- Your Honor.
- Major.
- Yes!
The crowd in front of the embassy
had no weapons, did they, Colonel?
Objection. We found
no snipers' weapons either.
Yes, they had weapons!
You think there's
a script for fighting a war...
without pissing somebody off?
Follow the rules,
and nobody gets hurt?
Yes, innocent people probably died.
Innocent people always die.
But I did not exceed
my orders!
There are rules, and marines
I was not going to stand by
and see another marine die...
just to live
by those f***ing rules!
Colonel!
Your Honor,
I request a recess.
Major.
The government is finished with
Colonel Childers, Your Honor.
All right, Colonel,
you have your recess.
Why didn't you tell me
what you said?
- I didn't remember.
- "Waste the motherfuckers".
That's brilliant.
You didn't think that was important?
Why didn't you know
about the goddamn recording?
- You're supposed to know...
- I had a week to prepare this case.
I didn't realize
what a f*** up I'm defending.
- Well, now you know.
- Goddamn.
- This is going to take us both down.
- How's that work?
You gonna spend the rest
of your life in prison too?
I'm sorry.
- I really screwed up in there, huh?
- Yeah, you really did.
Whew!
- So what happens now?
- Sh*t, I don't know.
I don't know.
Your Honor, the government
calls Colonel Bin Le Cao...
as a rebuttal witness.
- Objection, Your Honor.
What are the grounds for
this rebuttal witness to be allowed?
Will counsel please
approach the bench.
- Who is Colonel Bin Le Cao?
- A North Vietnamese Colonel...
who fought against Colonel Childers
at the battle of Ca Lu.
What he has to say directly refutes
statements made by Colonel Childers.
- When was the battle of Ca Lu?
- 1968.
This is uncharged misconduct. It is
not allowable under military law.
How do you know this witness
is going to charge misconduct?
I'm assuming...
He knows because he was
at the battle of Ca Lu.
- Is that true?
- Yes, sir.
On what grounds are you
calling your witness?
Colonel Hodges made Colonel
Childers' combat experience...
part of his defense.
Furthermore,
Colonel Childers testified...
that he never shoots unarmed people.
My witness has an important
perspective on that statement.
I'm gonna allow
the witness.
Do you swear or affirm...
that the evidence you shal I give
in this case...
shall be the truth,
the whole truth...
and nothing but the truth,
so help you God?
Yes, I do.
Will you please state
your name for the court?
- My name is Bin Le Cao.
- In 1968, you were a colonel...
with the North Vietnamese army,
B3 regiment, involved in a fight...
with American marines at Ca Lu
in the Quang Tri province?
Yes, I was.
Will you tell the court
about that battle?
We were aware that
small units of Americans...
ryere ryeryr
my company of men.
We found ourselves
behind your forces.
This was lucky for us
because we were out numbered.
Do you recognize
this man?
Yes.
Did he capture you and your
radio operator that day?Yes.
Did he remove your weapons
and place you under armed guard?
Yes.
Did you consider yourself
a prisoner of war?
Yes.
Did he execute
your radio operator?
Yes.
You personally saw him shoot
a fellow prisoner of war?
Yes.
Where did he shoot him?
In the head.
Thank you.
No further questions.
Were your men annihilating
that platoon of marines?
Yes.
Did Colonel Childers force you
to call your men off?
Yes.
Do you believe his actions
were calculated to save...
the lives of American marines?
- Yes.
Would you have done the same
thing Colonel Childers did...
if the situation
had been reversed?
Colonel Cao, would you have shot...
a captive American radio operator
in the head if you thought...
it would persuade Colonel Childers
to spare the lives of your own men?
Yes.
No more questions.
This court is in recess
until tomorrow at 09:00.
#NAZWA?
- General, good to see you.
- Perry, good to see you too.
I want you to meet
my grandson.
Hi. Nice to meet
you, sir.
Thanks.
Colonel Terry Childers
is a decorated war hero,
a trusted leader
of American marines,
and I wish that was
all there was to it.
Unfortunately, there are
many of them
women and children.
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