Snowden Page #5

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Has anyone called here before? Not once in three weeks.

Should I respond? I can say that it's the wrong number.

And?

No, I do not.

Okay. Thanks.

They asked if I wanted to have embedded in the bed.

Since the "do not disturb" sign is not hung.

So?

We wait or we run ourselves?

I said from the beginning that what you publish is your thing and I trust you.

All I ask is that you study the information and are responsible.

No names, no details. No current or critical released.

Stick to the mass surveillance and let the public decide.

You have our word on it, but that's not the issue.

The White House is organizing right now a teleconference between Janine and intelligence services.

It will happen in a few hours. Let us wait for it.

See what they say to her.

I think we should pause for a moment.

We meet here again after the call. There will be around midnight.

Lunch time in New York. Okay.

I will try again with the PRISM article so long.

We are on our hotel room if you need us, okay?

Can we perhaps take a break from that?

Yes, sorry.

Want to watch? Maybe it feels better then? It does not record now.

When did it for you, not wanting to be photographed?

Probably in Japan. I remember, every time a camera was directed at me, so ..

I could not breathe. Why?

I checked probably too much on other people through cameras.

Japan was your first NSA job, right?

Yes, I was kontrakstanstlld at Dell. Had high security.

Why did you go back to work after Geneva?

Because of the money, and that I wanted to stay in Japan.

And because of Obama. I thought everything would be better with him.

I was wrong.

Yokoya - AIR BASE, Tokyo

How was that?

In the mornings, I built a system for continuous backup.

called Epic Shelter.

So if, for example, terrorists burned down all embassies

and NSA outposts in the Middle East, would this program

ensure we did not lose any data.

But I had to put it aside when it came visitors.

NSA wanted to impress the Japanese. Show them our reach.

They loved the live video from drones.

This is Pakistan right now.

They were not as excited about that we wanted their help

to spy on the Japanese population.

They said it was against their laws.

We bugged the country anyway, of course.

And we did not stop there. Once we had their communications

we continued with the physical infrastructure.

We sneaked into small programs in their power grids, dams, hospitals.

The idea was that if Japan one day was not our allies

we could turn off the lights.

And it was not just Japan. We planted software in Mexico,

Germany, Brazil, Austria.

China, I can understand. Or Russia or Iran. Venezuela, okay.

But Austria?

We also followed the majority of world leaders and major industry leaders.

Followed trade, sex scandals, diplomatic messages,

to give the United States an advantage in G8 negotiations

or something to press the Brazilian oil company.

Or help to set aside some leaders in the Third World.

In the end, the truth sinks in, that no matter what reason you give yourself

so it's not about terrorism.

Terror is excuse.

This is about economic and social control.

And the only thing you really protects, is your government's superiority.

Were you thinking of going to the press at that time?

No, it had not occurred to me then.

I thought that the system would correct itself.

The President would keep his promise that got him elected.

That's when I started to read about you, and about your movies.

In Glenn's blog I read that you were detained at airports for hours.

37 times. To have examined your own country's war.

That's why I go to Berlin to cut the movie.

You can trust me with this. I do.

I have not relied on any of several years.

It was a welcome change to be working as terrorist reconnaissance.

Every day I start new concepts for signals.

Domestic hot

Many of them were Americans, which felt strange

but you reminds you that

I can stop a dirty bomb and save thousands of lives.

But you follow not only your enemy targets, you can also follow their metadata.

Which is basically all the phone numbers of the contact.

Let's say your goal is a foam Iranian bankers from Beirut.

So you check all of his data, but also everyone he talks to.

Including his cousin who is a dentist in Buffalo.

And then you have to check all the dental office contacts.

And when you are three jumps out from your first goal, you're a bartender

chatting with his mother about Botox.

For three jumps from anyone, say, 40 contacts

you have a list of 2.5 million people.

In that moment, you realize the scale of the system.

The NSA tracks really all mobile phones worldwide.

No matter who you are, you sit in a database every day of your life

ready to be reviewed.

I AGREE TO THE AGREEMENT AND PRIVACY POLICY

Not only terrorists or countries or companies.

Without you.

Lindsey was with you in Japan?

Japan was .. hard for us.

You could not talk about your work. No.

It was an evening, toward the end,

there was a sense that we would climb Fuji next day.

Should you add up those on Twitter? No. They are for my sake.

What do you think? I think you should remove them?

Not quite the art criticism, I hoped.

Sorry, but you can not have things lying on the hard drive.

Yes I can. Please, can you .. Can you delete them?

Russian hackers again? No.

Are we?

It's classified. Am I a target?

Obviously not. Obviously watching someone on my nude photos.

I would not have brought it up. It's about national security.

I'm flattered that my b*obs are so important, but you get to try everything better.

I'd rather not talk about things that can get us into prison.

Is it the patches is all about? And your camera phobia?

Because of the job? Monitors us?

Who checks they? No, just stop talking now.

Let's go to bed, wake up tomorrow and climb the damn mountain.

Of course we should not talk about it.

What do you mean? We're not talking about anything anymore.

You work 12 hours a day, you come home depressed.

You play computer games, and then you fall asleep.

I'm tired because I have a job that pays for our apartment in the world's most expensive city.

You asked if I wanted to join, but you knew I did not have a work visa.

If you had one, you had given up your eat-sleep-walking out alive?

Do you want a career? A career as yours?

Where I am unhappy all the time? No!

It's called taking responsibility.

F*** this.

You have no f***ing idea how it is to be responsible for other people's lives.

You live it a wonderland where there are no consequences. Where no one is injured.

No. You. You will never be hurt.

I am completely crushed. I have not done anything!

Like, you have done nothing at all!

You hang out with me. You're not laughing with me.

You touch me hell even longer!

Sorry .. Stop! No!

We never came to Fuji. Lindsey returned home shortly thereafter.

I was very lonely. After three months, I also went back to Maryland.

I promised her that I would change, and we moved in together again.

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