Sound City Page #9

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Oh, yeah, a lot of darkness

in me.

It's dark and so cool, man.

I've spent a lot of time in

front of that board.

Thanks, Dave.

It's a great enabler.

Great, man.

Anybody that's been to

Sound City knows exactly why I'm

making this record.

They get it.

I have an idea.

Why don't we just start it

Lee Ving style where you go...

Oh, I'm on it!

Your wife is calling

Tell her I'm not here

Your wife is calling

Just having one beer

Your wife is calling

Da uber frau

Your wife is calling

Be home in half an hour

Your wife is calling

You say something, dear?

Your wife is calling

Just having more beer

Your wife is calling

You've not to fear

Your wife is calling

Lift your voice, sing for

beer

In the studio, you're trying

to boost your own performance

from the energy that you're

feeding from in your partners.

Your wife is calling

You can't do that if you're

standing there alone.

Your wife is calling

Your wife is calling

Your wife is calling

Your wife is calling

Your wife is calling

F***, yeah.

It's a conversation, and that's

a musical relationship that I

think everybody searches for.

I think the downside these days

is thinking that, "I can do this

all on my own".

Yes, you can do this all on your

own, but you'll be a much

happier human being to do it

with other human beings, and I

can guarantee you that.

How would you define "feel"?

Feel is - is just a part of

who you are.

It just comes from where you -

where you're coming from.

It's just the way your heart

beats, you know?

Everybody's heart beats a little

different.

Everybody's got a little

different feel.

"Feel" doesn't mean you're in

time.

You know, 'cause something might

have a really out-of-time kind

of feel.

It might be gloriously out of

tune and just be awesome.

It's a chemistry - something

that happens between people.

Feel is not something that you

learn in a book.

Feel is something that you find

as a musician.

It's like when you take in a

breath, your body swells up.

When you exhale, it collapses a

bit, and sometimes music does

that so subtle.

But feel is being human.

No two musicians are the same,

even if we're playing the same song.

No two musicians do it the same

way.

It's so hard to be understood

in life, and that's why, when

you meet someone where you

understand each other at that

moment, you sort of want to hold

on to it, you know?

When someone has great feel,

whether it's a drummer or a

guitar player, it kind of makes

you fall in love with their

personality.

You realize what a beautiful

person they are, you know?

There's a lot of people

growing up now that won't do

studio time and have never

touched a compressor that's the

one that's being emulated as the

picture on their plug-in on

their laptop.

They're missing out on

something.

You know?

Trent is using technology as

an instrument, not as a crutch.

He doesn't need it.

He's one of the most brilliant

people I've ever met in my

entire life.

He's the person that could

inspire the digital end of this

conversation.

Hey, you guys, no f***ing way

with the smoke machine.

There's no f***ing

way that's gonna go down.

I'll take the smoke machine

in here.

My grandma pushed me into

piano.

I remember, when I was 5, I

started taking classical

lessons.

I liked it, and I felt I was

good at it.

I knew, in life, I was supposed

to make music.

Feels like a need a

differentiator there - a cool

bass part.

The sound I have is not right.

That's not helping things at the moment.

I could do better than that.

Are you hearing something you

want to try with the bass here?

You're not stepping on my toes.

I practiced long and hard and

studied and learned how to play

an instrument that provided me a

foundation where I can base

everything I think of in terms

of where it sits on the piano.

I sort of liked that, at one

point, it kind of got there, and

then it backed off.

It can kind of brood and be

really simple and empty and sort

of kind of like lift the curtain

on it, and it can expand.

All right, can I just say

that that is f***ing awesome?

That, right there, sounds so

f***ing beautiful.

I really like the sound of these

three things together.

I think it sounds really cool.

Okay, then let's keep doing

it that way.

This whole thing should just

sunrise.

It would make it beautiful,

you know?

It sort of, like, evolves until

it hits this point and maybe

goes zoom!

When I'm writing music today,

rarely do I sit down and think,

"Oh, this should resolve to that

suspended... "

You know, I don't think of that

sh*t.

But, subconsciously, I know I

do.

And just when you've sold that

enough, that's the time to

change to an ending and sort of

like let it rip a little bit.

You know what I mean?

I like having that foundation in

there, and that's a very

un-punk-rock thing to say.

But understanding an instrument

and thinking about it and

learning that skill has been

invaluable to me.

Ah.

That was pretty good.

Sounded pretty good to me,

too.

I've found now, as processors

have gotten faster and

programmers have gotten

smarter...

...There's some pretty music

tools that are showing up in the

digital world.

Yeah, take me to the top of

the drop.

The tools are better.

You know, tools are much better

today than they were five years

ago - certainly, 30 years ago.

Now that everyone is empowered

with these tools to create

stuff, has there been a lot more

great sh*t coming out?

Not really.

You still have to have something

to do with those tools.

Rad.

Yeah, just, you know...

You should really try to have

something to say.

It all started with this idea

that I wanted to tell the story

of the board.

The conversation became

something much bigger.

Like, in this age of technology,

where you can simulate or

manipulate anything, how do we

retain that human element?

How do we keep music to sound

like people - that feeling that

I got when I was young - "Oh,

I can do that, too"?

Let's go do it.

My musical foundation was

The Beatles.

Everything I know about playing

guitar and song structure,

composition, all of it, it all

started with The Beatles.

I like the chandelier, too, man.

It's a nice touch.

Um, so, we don't know what

we're doing...

...so we can just do

anything.

Just - yeah.

I think he knows how you feel

when you play with him. I don't know.

I can't really describe it.

I drop from the most nervous

I've ever been down to like,

"Oh, this is - okay".

Yeah!

Yeah.

Mama

Won't you set me free?

Mama

Let me be

About halfway through the

session, I kind of looked over

at Krist when we were playing,

and we were going for it.

And you know, Krist was moving

the way he used to move, and you

were getting into it...

...and I was playing.

And I thought, "Oh, my god!

This is like Nirvana!"

And then, "Wait.

Paul McCartney is here?"

This is the best way to make

records, when you get people in

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