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some European journalists.

That way they think

those colonialists. . .

everything that could

in its "colonial lives"

and who always treated

installing your ideas

they had in other countries.

We who have no experience in the region

internal colonialism of one country over another.

Instead, we suffer

in the hands of colonialism.

I do not think anyone would want

to impose anything.

Instead,

believe in integration. . .

respecting differences,

the identity of each country. . .

culture and political processes,

ever are the same. . .

because we are different people. . .

with companies

and different histories.

What do you think the press

call Chavez a dictator?

I think I never experienced

in modern governments. . .

in Latin America or worldwide. . .

an election that many had

like those of Hugo Chavez

I think it's the 13s. election.

I have not seen many dictators

elected 13 consecutive times.

One can agree or not

with what he says. . .

but to say that there's freedom

Venezuela. . .

to say what one thinks,

do not believe it, otherwise.

How many pairs of shoes do you have?

How many pairs of shoes do you have?

I do not know, never told.

I do not understand, never ask

a man. . .

How many pairs of shoes

he has, or pants.

Always ask

women.

Okay, now established

your credit. . .

-Mrs. President.

Thank you.

It is much better indoors.

Bring a photo of May 25, 2003

my desk. . .

when Kirchner took over.

It's a great shot.

I'm with old friends.

I want to see,

is really great.

Let's see if the find.

How can men

be so slow, my God.

For how much longer

gonna be here?

This is May 25, 2003.

Kirchner was inaugurated.

Fidel laughing.

And I like the first lady.

Argentina had a recession

terrible between 1998 and 2002.

Can you describe

the role of the IMF. . .

and what Argentina did

out of recession?

Terrible was terrible.

The IMF recommended a wave

privatization. . .

non-intervention of the state,

that the market would solve everything.

and maintained the convertibility

(1 peso = 1 dollar)

to maintain this fiction. . .

in addition to the country into debt

financially brutally. . .

because the capital was (IMF). . .

and had an interest rate

impressive in Argentina

then they withdrew.

And caused the greatest debt

Argentina's history. . .

that reached up to 160%. . .

He left us 25% of

population without work,

over 30%

misery. . .

Finally, everything that can be

considered as a social tragedy.

Then it all explodes

in 2001 and 2002. . .

with a huge

currency devaluation. . .

which meant a huge

transfer of wealth.

That's what Kirchner inherited

on May 25, 2003.

So we started a

policy substantially different. . .

with a big fight with the IMF.

There is a widespread notion ...

that the U.S. has ignored

Latin America ...

and their Chambers of Commerce

helped the rich ...

but wounded

the working poor.

Today, Argentine President ...

with worries about the policy

American Chamber of Commerce ...

seemed not to rush to embrace

his U.S. counterpart.

And oddly,

President Bush agreed.

It's not easy to receive

these people.

Maybe it's not easy

I receive.

Many say they played

an innovative role and heroic. . .

to challenge the IMF

the first time. . .

and successfully.

I would say that one of the highlights

his personal life. . .

would be the conference with Bush

Mar Del Plata?

I think so. That day,

Latin America defeated. . .

the intentions of the first

world power. . .

represented by the policy

President Bush with the FTAA.

And all we act collectively.

Never forget that day.

So much so that kept the chair

that meeting in my house.

That day we had the courage. . .

not to speak over the radio

when man is not. . .

or when the representative is

imperial policy is not. . .

but we act collectively

and coordinately.

It was one of the most important steps

we gave in the region.

How when he says''not''

to a banker?

You're subversive, leftist

a thief, scoundrel.

Was there a moment,

like a movie. . .

where one of the main

bankers bent. . .

in the eye of the President

and said. . .

Mr.'' Kirchner, realizes

the implications of what he says?''

Always.

When one sees political

very friendly. . .

very friendly

these sectors. . .

something's not right.

Because these sectors only think

in profitability. . .

and not on society as a whole.

Now, during this mandate

facing the current Chair

is a different time

and more difficult.

I had to pull the country out of hell.

The president must do

the economy grows. . .

ensure that the distribution

profit is fair.

The sectors that control

the economy. . .

they always want to profit

and never share. . .

they do not want to share,

are the sectors that react.

Corporately respond because

want a country for a few

concentrator, where much

just stayed with the Argentine people

President Bush

Condo meeting came ...

talk about your policy

Free Trade ...

that says it will help

alleviate poverty ...

and create jobs in the region.

There were some uncomfortable moment

with Pres. Bush that night?

I say there's not kneel

to power. . .

be rude not to say

you need to talk. . .

queles we explored

rs and who opposed our actions.

We had a fight

in Monterrey.

And I said that here the solution

to boost quickly. . .

What is the solution that will be

have to do now

would be a Marshall Plan

And so he stopped and got angry.

He said it was a crazy idea

the Democrats.

And what we have to do here

and the best way to boost it ...

"The U.S. had strengthened

the war, "she said.

So he said.

The war? He said that?

He said,

were his exact words.

He suggested that South America

go to war?

He spoke of the USA.

Never said South America

Democrats

were wrong.

Economic growth

U.S.. . .

rs due out several

wars they had.

He was very clear.

President Bush is. . .

Well, it only 6 days left, right?

-Yes.

Thank God.

Your work here is

hampered by Hugo Chavez ..

Socialist President

Venezuela ...

who now had the unusual gesture

to bring the meeting ...

the demonstrators in a stadium

Football next.

He said he wants to bury

the Free Trade Agreement (AFTA).

The FTAA be damned!

From Argentina to Paraguay ...

where the ex-bishop Fernando Lugo,

a liberal theologian ...

win the election and ended

decades of leadership ...

the pro-Washington, the Colorado Party.

.

This is the old palace

of General Stroessner.

The dictator's mansion.

My family was persecuted

by Stroessner.

My father was arrested 20 times.

It's a paradox I live now

where Stroessner lived.

Can you imagine?

These changes in Latin America

in the last 10 years. . .

were incredible, really.

Especially since 2003, 2004.

This resulted in some form

Liberation Theology?

Yes, certainly. . .

believe that the roots of change

in Latin America. . .

began with a

new way of thinking.

There are 15 or 20 years,

no one could imagine. . .

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