Sully Page #6
I love you too
I'll call you when they're done with me.
- Good Morning, Sully!
- Jeff!
Alright.
Good morning ladies and gentlemen, and welcome.
My name is Charles Porter.
I've been assigned by the National Transportation
Safety Border...
To conduct this public hearing here today.
We have a lot of material to cover.
But before we listen to the cockpit
voice recording...
We will be listening to it for the first time
along with you, gentlemen.
For the request of Captain Sullenberger
and the Union...
AirBus has agreed to link us by sattelite
to the days piloted simulations.
Upload link, please.
They're just simulations, Sully.
Won't change my mind about
what happened up there.
Might change theirs!
Birds!
Number 1's roll on back!
- And number 2.
- Auto-pilot's off.
Pilot off.
- Flight director's off.
- Flight director's off.
Alright. LaGuardia, this is Captain 1549.
Dual engine failure,
we have to return to the field.
Ok, I'm gonna left turn back to LaGuardia 13.
I'll activate the approach for you.
It's activated.
Runway 13.
Light subs coming in nicely.
- Flaps too?
- Flaps too!
Too low. Flaps.
Lights low.
- Too low. Flaps.
- 40!
- Too low. Flaps.
- 40!
20!
Succesful landing at LaGuardia.
Runway 13.
For the record.
The pilots and the computer sims
bare the same result.
Let's try for Teterboro now, please.
Upload the second run.
Birds!
Give me a heading 3-1-0
Heading 3-1-0.
- Let me give a direct for Teterboro.
- Sure for Teterboro.
1000!
Flaps too.
Flaps too.
Too low!
Terrain.
Too low!
Terrain.
Too low!
Terrain.
50, 40, 30...
Succesful landing at Teterboro, runway 19.
Multiple airports, runways,
two succesful landings...
we are simply mimicking what the computer
already told us.
A lot of toes were stepped on
in order to set this up for today.
And, and frankly, I...
I really don't know what you gentlemen
plan to the gain by.
Can we get serious now?
Captain?
We've all heard about the computer simulations
and now we are watching actual sims but I...
can't quite believe.
You still have not...
taken into account the human factor.
Human pilot at simulations show that
you could made it back to the airport.
No, they don't.
These pilots were not behaving like human beings.
Like people who were experiencing
this for the first time.
But they may not be reacting like you did.
Immediately after the bird strike
they are turning back for the airport.
Just as in the computer sims, correct?
That is correct.
They obviously knew the turn
and exactly where heading to fly.
They did not run a check,
they did not switch on the APU.
They had all the same paremeters
that you faced.
No one warned us.
No one said:
You are going to lose both enginesat a lower altitude than any jet in history.
But be cool. Just make a left turn for LaGuardia
like you're going back to pick up the milk.
This was a dual engine loss at 2800 feet
followed by immediate water landing...
155 souls on board.
No one has ever trained for an incident like that.
No one!
In the Teterboro landing,
with its unrealistic back angle...
we were not the thunder birds up there.
I'd like to know how many times
the pilot practiced that maneuvre...
before he actually pulled it off.
I'm not questioning the pilots,
they're good pilots.
But they've clearly been instructed...
they head for the airport
immediately after the bird strike.
You've allowed no time for analysis
or decision making.
In these simulations, you're taking
all of the humanity out of the cockpit.
How much time did the pilots spent planning...
for this event. For these simulations?
You are looking for human error.
Then make it human.
This wasn't a videogame.
It was life and death.
Sully's right, that's worth a few seconds.
Please ask how many practice ones they had.
17?!
The pilot who landed at Teterboro...
had 17 practice attempt,
before the simulation we just witnessed.
Your reaction-decision time
will be set at 35 seconds.
35 seconds is not enough time.
We only had 208 second total so....
I'll take it.
Upload the link, return to LaGuardia...
Now then added 35 seconds delay
in response time.
Birds!
- Gas On. For 35 seconds!
- 35 seconds.
Time's up.
Here we go!
- Going for 13.
- Ok.
- Activate confirm!
- Ok. You are confirmed!
We're heading right for the airport.
Caution!
Obstacle!
We're about 7 miles from north way.
Caution!
Obstacle!
Terrain!
Terrain!
Pull up!
Pull up!
Pull up!
Pull up!
Too low! Terrain!
- Too low! Terrain!
- Can you blow extra speed.
- Too low! Terrain!
- Or some flaps.
- Too low! Terrain!
- Too low! Terrain!
- Too low! Terrain!
- Too low! Terrain!
- Too low! Terrain!
50... 40... 30...
20...
Let's try Teterboro.
Upload the link, please.
- Birds!
- Auto-pilot off.
Flight Director off.
Half the time.
- 35 seconds!
- 35 seconds!
Engine 1 and 2 fail.
- Turn.
- Ok.
Let's see if we can make it.
- Headin' up to 19.
- Seing the Teterboro, out there?
I do!
Way too low.
Obstacle! Obstacle!
Pull up!
Pull up!
Pull up!
Pull up!
Pull up!
Pull up!
Pull up!
Pull up!
Does anyone need to see more simulations?
Now that we've seen what could have happened,
can we listen to what actually did?
We will look at all the results at a later date.
Elizabeth.
For the record, this is the CVR of U.S. Airways
Flight 1549, January 15th, 2009.
Gentlemen!
Head sets.
Birds!
Sh*t!
Oh, yeah!
We got one rolling back.
We have both of them rolling back.
Ignition start.
I'm starting the APU.
- My aircraft!
- Your aircraft!
- Get on with the QRH.
- Priority left.
Lost the thrust on both engines.
Mayday, mayday, mayday!
This is Captain 1549...
Hit birds. We've lost thrust on both engines,
we are turning back towards LaGuardia.
Okay you need to return to LaGuardia?
Turn left heading 2-2-0.
- 2-2-0.
Both, both engines.
FOR making on both engine mode selected ignition.
Ignition?
Ignition.
- Thrust levers. Confirmed! Idle!
- Idle.
Air speed.
Often on relied 300 nods.
- We don't have that!
- No! Wanna dock.
Captain 1549, if we can get a view,
do you wanna try land on runway 13?
We are unable,
we'd be end up in the Hudson.
Emergency electrical power.
Emergency generators not online.
Online.
Stress mess as transmit. We did that.
Captain's 1549, it's gonna be left traffic
runway 31.
Unable.
Okay, when do you need to land?
- Wind sheer.
- Back one off, then on.
It's been 10 seconds, Captain.
Come on. Talk to me.
Captain 1549, runway 4 is available,
if you wanna make left traffic to runway 4.
I don't think we can make any runway.
What about over to our right?
Anything in New Jersey?
Maybe Teterboro?
Ok. Yeah!
Off your right right side is TeterBoro Airport.
LaGuardia Departure?!
Got an emergency inbound.
This is Teterboro tower, go ahead.
Captain 1549 over the GW Bridge,
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