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The Armstrong Lie Page #5
heart, lungs, is big, is huge.
After Lance
survived cancer, Ferrari found
a way to turn his
weakness into strength.
He was definitely lighter.
He lose a lot of muscles in the whole
body, upper and also in the legs.
He lose a lot of power
in terms of strength.
To make up for
the loss of strength,
lower gear and pedal faster.
So he essentially was
shifting the load from the muscles
to the heart and
the lungs and the blood.
And if you can have the aerobic
engine to sustain a higher cadence,
you can go farther,
faster, longer.
Ferrari also
included a secret ingredient,
drugs to boost oxygen
in the blood that had
a special impact
with the new cadence.
This unbelievable
cadence that he's adopted
since he survived
testicular cancer
is what has
allowed him to become
one of the best
climbers in the world.
Utilizing a higher cadence...
At the beginning,
we had to do this choice.
And then, because this choice paid
in term of results, we continued.
Ferrari's remarkably unromantic.
I remember one
particular conversation.
We had just
finished a training ride.
And I said, "Am I watching the
limits of human potential here'?
"Is that what I'm seeing?"
He said, "We're
nowhere near the limit.
"No, there are ways
to push the limits."
Amongst the 200 guys doing
the Tour de France at that point,
they're like, "You're working with Ferrari.
Okay. Respect."
He knew that
everybody was doping.
He was like, "Look, you can't
do this stuff on your own.
"You guys aren't doctors. You have
no idea what all this stuff is.
"So here's what I'm gonna do.
"You can still dope a little bit.
I'll tell you what to do.
"The minimum amount of doping,
the maximum amount of training.
"Nutrition. Lifestyle.
"Everything that
goes into making you
"a good cyclist,
I will help you with."
And doping was just
Ferrari was careful
about doping for another reason.
He had sources
inside anti-doping labs
who kept him updated
on the latest tests.
And Ferrari's whole program
was cloaked in secrecy.
"I gotta go see Michele.
I have to do some testing."
We met Michele Ferrari,
Lance's doctor,
in the parking lot
outside of Milano
off the highway by
a hotel gas station.
I don't know about you, but I
don't see my doctor that way.
It's best that you use
the most knowledgeable people,
regardless of their reputation.
It's a great mind in cycling
and somebody that I consider
and my team considers
to be an honest
man and a fair man.
The guy was a liar and a cheat.
Not only did he dope,
but he doped
with the best
expertise available.
And he doped in the most
professional, efficient way,
perhaps in the history of sport.
What kind of message
do you think that your
working relationship
with Michele Ferrari
sends out to
Well, David, I'm glad
you showed up, finally.
It's good to see
you finally here.
Good question.
Again, I think that
people are not stupid.
People will look at the facts.
They will say, "Okay,
here's Lance Armstrong.
"Here's the relationship.
"Is that questionable?"
Perhaps. But people are smart.
Do they say, "Has Lance Armstrong
ever tested positive?" No.
"Has Lance Armstrong
been tested?" A lot.
Is it fairly easy to
prepare for a test?
Does it dissipate
in your system really quickly?
The half-life of
EPO is four hours.
So, you can back
it out from there
and figure out when
you're in trouble.
"Will he pass every test
because he does not take EPO?"
Yes, he will.
My defense was that I've
passed every control you've given me.
And that's true.
The samples that
were given were clean.
But you never,
ever stopped there.
You always went
one step further.
No, Alex. I can't...
I would have gone...
to put on boxing gloves,
I would have done it
right there. Let's go.
the cleanest of clean riders...
And I have the proof,
which you refuse to believe.
Just let me finish the question.
cleanest of clean riders,
and yet you
associate with somebody
whose reputation is
incredibly tarnished.
And that person is going to go
on trial in two months' time.
Would you not think that it would
be in the interest of cycling
for you to suspend your
relationship with Michele Ferrari
until he has answered the
charges of which he's accused?
You have a point.
It's my choice.
I view him as innocent. He's
a clean man, in my opinion.
Let there be a trial.
There was a trial.
The star witness was an Italian
cyclist, Filippo Simeoni.
He told me very clearly
that to prepare for a big race
I needed to take
certain substances.
In particular, EPO.
I had some journals confiscated
where I meticulously documented
my interactions with Ferrari
In October 2004,
the Italian court
convicted Dr. Ferrari
of sporting fraud,
forcing Armstrong to publicly
end their relationship.
However, Ferrari's conviction would
be overturned two years later.
At the end, I was absolved.
Probably, we need a movie to explain
But in
relationship with EPO, okay.
Generational riders utilize
that drug in competition.
That's historic true.
EPO, or synthetic EPO stimulates
the production of red blood cells
which transmit
oxygen to the muscles.
Originally
developed to treat anemia,
cyclists began
using it in the 1990s
to boost
performance and recovery.
It doesn't make
your muscles stronger,
it doesn't give you more energy.
There's nothing you feel.
It's just simply
that it allows your body
your lungs to your muscles.
So, that burning sensation, that fatigue
where you can't go any further,
it just happens later.
It began in the late
'80s and into the early '90s,
and our frustration
really came to a head in 1995.
But leading up to that, specifically
1994, I was the world champion.
I was wearing the world champion's
jersey, the rainbow-striped jersey,
and competing clean.
We were just
getting annihilated.
Go on, Lance.
Give us the tour.
Holy COW.
There was a group of
and we just said, "We either have
to play ball here or go home."
Were you pissed off
that you had to do it?
Or was it just you
had to do what you had to do
in order to be able to compete?
The latter.
Maybe I'd approach the
decision differently today,
but at the time,
I didn't lose sleep over it.
One time, I went into
Lance's room to borrow his laptop,
and he's brushing his teeth
in his boxer shorts,
and he decides to give himself a
shot of EPO right in front of me.
That was an attempt
by him of just saying,
"Listen, buddy,
you've stepped over the line.
"You're in the club.
There's no going back."
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