The Art of the Steal Page #7
on at least two occasions,
and I was approached
about turning it over
to some other institutions
on other occasions.
But I had no intention
of reigning
while somebody else ruled,
and that was, in their view,
the end of me.
They laid the groundwork,
saying the money
that was spent on the lawsuits
ruined the Barnes,
which is not true.
It had more money than it had
when I came in
and a new building.
- Curiously, Glanton said to me
at the time
that-- and this is
not quite how he put it--
but that he was the bulwark
against the establishment
stealing the Barnes.
And in a perverse way,
absolutely correct about that.
- I was just like,
"Okay, here are the keys.
"Go do your master's bidding.
Run it into the ground,
into a wall."
And literally, that's what
I said, "They're gonna run it
into a brick wall."
- I'm sure I saw the letter.
I'm not gonna say
that his predictions
were accurate, per se.
But once he left,
there was not
the same level of drive
with those who remained.
And in the long run, I thought
that was gonna continue
to drag the Barnes down.
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- And so there we were,
with the Barnes board,
minus Richard Glanton,
with the Barnes's
already parlous endowment
reduced to virtually nothing.
- Barnes Foundation,
without any funds,
without an effective
leadership, is, you know,
sitting in this building
as a sitting duck.
to line up
and work towards something
that had absolutely nothing
to do with what Barnes wanted,
with the agreement
between Barnes
and the state of Pennsylvania
embodied in a legal document.
All of that was sort of
left in a drawer
while politicians
and billionaires
and cultural mavens
and foundations got busy.
- The Barnes was given
just enough money
by the foundations
so that they could claim
that they were trying
to help
the poor ol' Barnes out.
But that was never,
in my opinion, the goal.
- Foundations are
non-profit corporations.
We're used to hearing about
corporate takeovers
with for-profit corporations.
But this was a non-profit
corporate takeover.
And the first thing
you have to do
is remake the board of trustees
so you have a compliant board
who is on your side.
- In the period after
Richard Glanton was out,
the foundation was
just sort of puttering along.
It was still controlled
by Lincoln.
Four of the five board members
The president
of the board of trustees
put on the board by Lincoln
was Bernie Watson.
- Watson was very
politically connected,
a professional
foundation executive,
and he was the chairman
of the City Convention Center,
the Tourist Bureau.
- In the midst of that
steps up
these Philadelphia foundations.
They were going
to help them raise--
I think it was $150 million.
From the very beginning,
Pew's thought was,
"Well, we're gonna give
you money.
We're gonna get something
out of it.
We want some control."
they weren't just gonna give
without getting control
of the Barnes board.
- Well, if you're
Bernie Watson,
your duty was to maintain
a connection
between Barnes and Lincoln,
because that was part
of the trust indenture.
I mean, what's Lincoln have
He makes his living
from the sort of institutions
and people who want this thing
to happen.
Watson went ahead
and negotiated a deal
that cut Lincoln out.
The only way for a Pew
or any other foundation
to get control,
to be able
was for the indenture
to be changed,
for them to go to court
and change the rules
that Barnes laid down.
Lincoln didn't have a clue.
Watson and these
Philadelphia foundations
had a plan to basically
push them aside.
Right?
They flipped out.
They got an attorney and tried
to intervene and stop it.
who were making noises
that the plan was starting
to fall apart to the point
where more aggressive tactics
needed to be employed.
- Ed Rendell, the governor
at the time,
starts to put pressure
on Lincoln, okay?
He's the governor.
of this state-affiliated
institution.
He said,
"Well, look, you know,
"Lincoln, you could be in,
you know, a rosy position
"if you go along
with this thing.
What have you gotten
out of Barnes so far? "
Along with Rendell,
that he's gonna help pressure
Lincoln a little bit.
And the thing that he has
is the ability to say,
"You get nothing, Lincoln,
if you guys don't play along."
- I don't know that we were
ever as direct as saying,
"We can take this away
from you,"
because that would take
a court to do that,
but I had to explain
to them that,
you know, maybe
the attorney general's office
would have to take some action
involving them
that might have to change
the complexion of the board.
And whether I said that directly
or I implied it,
the message.
And when they say--
you mentioned it.
It was portrayed
that I was the bad cop
and the governor
was the good cop.
The governor had the money.
And the governor had some money
he was willing to add onto it,
so that automatically made
him good cop.
There was some money proposed
to-- for Lincoln to offset
some of the perhaps
perceived losses
that they might have.
- As I recall,
it was about $40 million.
And I said, "You tell me
what you want to spend
the $40 million on."
- That's not a whole lot
of money to some schools,
but it's a whole lot of money
to Lincoln University.
I think that was part
of the price
- They weren't blackmailed
into agreeing with us at all.
If you ask the board,
I made it abundantly clear
to Mr. Scott and others
that they were getting
this money regardless.
- They pressured the sh*t
out of 'em.
And in the end, they caved.
What the Philadelphia
foundations did
is what takes place all the time
in the corporate world,
which is to take over the board
by adding new positions
on the board.
You don't go in
and kill all the board members
that are there.
You just put ten more on
so that those five
no longer have a majority.
Watson negotiated a deal
that watered down
Lincoln's participation
in the management
of the foundation.
Yeah, he betrayed Barnes,
I think, first.
But, you know, to the extent
Lincoln put people
on the board thinking,
well, you know,
you're going to keep Lincoln
in the picture,
he betrayed them too.
- They sold Lincoln University
for a shekel.
They sold it down the creek.
And they had no right
to do that.
- And the Philadelphia
establishment--
who he determined
their hands on this art--
now have it in their hands.
- From the public side,
from what, you know, me
and every other
newspaper reader,
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