The China Hustle
And so let us start
a long march... together.
Not in lockstep
but on different roads
leading to the same goal.
The goal of building
a world structure
of peace and justice,
in which all may stand together
with equal dignity.
First of all,
to China.
This agreement
will open China's market to us.
I would call our relationship with China
very positive... and complex.
The free market is the greatest force
for economic progress
in human history.
I will make a great deal
and lots of great deals
for the American people.
Believe me!
What is capitalism?
Is it an economic system?
Or is it an apparatus
that we can use
to make more money
for ourselves
and take more money
from others?
I think, at its heart,
it rewards those who work hard,
but it also rewards
those who...
are willing to...
take advantage of others.
There are no good guys
in this story...
including me.
- Yeah, yeah, that's good.
- Okay...
What's your earliest memory
from childhood?
- That's a trick question.
- Is it?
I... was not expecting it.
I don't know what my earliest
memory from childhood was.
and I was busting
a fraud somewhere.
This is Dan David.
The first time I met him,
we had a couple of drinks
at a TGI Fridays
in Penn Station,
and he told me
an almost unbelievable story.
Before the dust had settled
on the economic collapse
of 2008,
Wall Street had already
figured out a new way
to package garbage as gold.
They were engineering
an enormous fraud
that spanned the globe.
But this time,
the lies at the center
of the scam were
100 percent legal.
This time,
Dan's part
far from Wall Street.
The small investment shop
he ran with his partner Maj
had just been crushed
by the stock market crash.
Three o'clock. What's goin' on?
People who had hedge funds
in 2008
closed their funds
and started a new fund.
- Chris, you got anything?
what I'm working on now.
I'm just gonna...
We decided right away
we weren't gonna do that.
We were gonna make everybody
their money back.
They needed big gains,
quickly.
But with the whole
Western world
on the brink
of another depression,
prospects seemed bleak.
It wasn't hopeless
everywhere, though.
The people in the know
steered Dan to China.
It was this exploding market.
It was the only market
that people actually
were confident
would go up, was China.
This is gonna be
the largest economy in the world.
Let's invest in it now.
It blew my mind 'cause
it was so completely different
from what I thought
it would be it was booming.
There were certain
cities, you'd go one time,
and you'd go a year later
again, and suddenly there'd be
that didn't exist last time.
Very dynamic.
Gold rush.
There was almost no company
in 2009 that was China-based
For an American
set of eyes looking at this,
you were just like,
"Well, my gosh,
"China really is
this golden land
I really thought,
"Well, jeez, you know,
"the American century
is over now.
This is it."
Everyone wanted
a piece of China.
There was just one problem,
foreigners like Dan
couldn't invest directly
in Chinese markets.
That's where the small
California bank
Roth Capital came in.
Roth found a niche
that the big banks
had overlooked,
taking small Chinese companies
and listing them directly
on U.S. stock exchanges.
Now Dan and others like him
could participate
in the Chinese
economic miracle,
and the bank's
young salesmen had the chance
to make a killing
with the right pitch.
Hey, Jed,
how are you doing today?
Great, what do you got?
Well, we're working
on this new company.
Would you like to hear
about a transaction?
Two days go by. Five days go by.
Do you have
any interest in this?
This is what we feel
the company's capacity
can go to
after this acquisition.
These are fully registered
securities.
What do you want to do?
If they did have interest,
they would come back to you.
Yes. Yes.
Yeah, I'm interested.
$2 million worth.
Put me in for that.
Okay, great.
And that would be it.
I tried to make myself
be in the flow.
Think of a running river.
21 million bucks?
That's a pretty good fee.
- So let's say this is--
- I'm worried, though.
I'm worried that the numbers
don't hold up from China.
No one ever asked that.
Roth is a second, third-tier
boutique investment bank
from California.
Someone else had described it
as a frat house.
Roth Capital would get
behind small companies
and push them out
into the market.
They definitely were
heating up 2010, 2011.
Roth was well known
for doing China deals
at a time when we were looking.
We went to a couple
of Roth conferences.
It was a good time.
Roth Capital Partners
has been organizing conferences
for years in Orange County, California.
This has got to be
the best conference in America.
Company after company you
may have never heard of before
makes pitches
to people with money.
was kind of simplicity itself.
They'd have
a three-day extravaganza--
100, 150 companies--
and these CEOs would be saying,
"For these six or seven
or eight or ten reasons,
revenues 75 percent next year."
China has gone,
in the last few years,
from interesting to important.
And then it turns
into entertainment time.
Snoop Dogg, Billy Idol,
dancers,
ice sculptures,
Trojan theme night, buses,
trains, planes--
and then baijiu,
in a can.
You drank and you drank.
You ganbei,
you cheers to somebody,
and then they have
and it goes on and on and on.
The Chinese wanted to see
what kind of a person
you were,
and some of them felt like
the more drunk you got,
the more of your natural persona
would come out.
The master of ceremonies
at these conferences
was often the bank's
stage-diving chairman,
Byron Roth.
I wanna rock and roll
All night
Get him up!
And party every day,
I wanna rock and roll
You know, this is a guy
who started out
in the commodities business
when he was 16 years old.
His dad had a feedlot business,
and they'd bid on cows at
auctions and stuff like that.
I mean, this is not
an unsophisticated man.
We just do things that are--
that are different.
And that's kind of
the way we are
as an investment banking firm.
For Byron Roth
and Matt and Dan,
it was time to party.
Between 2006 and 2011,
Roth hosted over a dozen
conferences and raised
billions for Chinese companies.
Byron, get over here. I want a hug.
Whoo!
Narrator:
Roth wasn't the only bank
cashing in on the China boom.
In New York, a small operator
named Rodman & Renshaw
ran investment conferences
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