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for to get the sex change for.

HEATH:
New York gave John

a lot of respect.

People wanted to

get to know him,

to see what kind

of person he was.

So everyone wanted to

take him back to the bank,

to get a picture of him

in front of the bank,

and John would do anything

for a couple of dollars.

I remember when

he tipped everybody,

threw a lot of bills

out on the sidewalk.

Oh, that's for the pizza.

That's when they

brought the pizza.

How much did you pay

for the pizza?

A couple thousand dollars.

$2,000.

I find this

a very sad commentary...

Why?

On our civilization that

1, 2, 3, 4 technicians,

all of whom I assume

are reasonably paid,

should be sent down here

to interview somebody

who has become a celebrity

because of crime.

It's ridiculous!

I mean, young kids

of today see that,

and they're gonna want to rob banks

just for the attention that they get,

and it's not fair.

Have you ever talked to him?

No.

Are you scared of him now?

He's just standing over there.

I still get the jitters just

remembering that whole night.

It was no laughing matter.

I mean, he acted crazy.

You didn't know which way he was gonna

go or what way he was gonna turn,

so you did what he said.

And now he's out

signing autographs.

Yeah.

Signing autographs

and becoming a big star.

Making money on an ordeal

he put a lot of people through.

HEATH:
One time, we went

to the actual bank,

and some of the people that

were involved with the bank

or, in fact, maybe one or two

of the hostages, approached us

because John's wearing this T-shirt

saying "I robbed this bank."

A lot of people in the

neighborhood didn't like the fact

that John was coming back to make

more money off the bank robbery.

So they ran us out

of the neighborhood.

Society has got a

right to condemn you

for expecting to make money

out of committing a crime

after you've been caught.

Yeah, but see, you're

forgetting one thing, right?

What about Hollywood?

Hollywood can make a movie...

namely Warner Bros...

make $50 million off of it,

get 6 Academy Award nominations

and win an Oscar for it.

They can make money

off of crime.

Why can a big company and a big

corporation make millions and millions?

They gave the hostages a hundred

dollars, couple hundred dollars each.

My wife Carmen got $50.

I got a couple of thousand, which I

used to get Ernie his operation.

I never got a nickel out of it.

MAN:
Not yet anyway.

Warner Bros. recently paid Wojtowicz a

cool $100,000 as a final settlement.

Legal disputes have temporarily

blocked that money.

WOJTOWICZ:
And to this day, I'm

still in court with my wife George

trying to get the money.

HEATH:
My name is

George Heath.

My relationship with John

Wojtowicz is that I am his lover.

I've also been known

as his wife.

He uses the term "wife."

[Cash register dings]

HEATH, VOICE-OVER: Everybody

was out after money.

I'm the wife of John Wojtowicz.

My name is Carmen Ann Wojtowicz and

I have two children, Dawn and Sean.

[Cash register dings]

HEATH, VOICE-OVER: Carmen got paid,

I got paid, John got paid...

[Cash register dings]

And, of course, Liz was trying

to make money herself.

MAN:
How much did the whole

sex change operation cost?

EDEN:
My last operation

was 2 1/2 weeks ago,

and it's now up to

about $54,000.

MAN:
Liz was smart.

Now she's got a personal agent.

We had to pay him

to get this interview.

She's trying to write a book,

but then, so is almost

everyone else involved.

WOJTOWICZ:
Liz and I... we didn't

have a relationship at that time.

I would see her in different clubs, and she

would tell me not to show her guy pictures.

I said, "You don't f***ing

tell me what to do."

And then she told a lot of people

that different guys are the real Dog

so they'd get treated to

celebrity status, and I would

come there and spoil

it all for them

because I'm the real

motherf***er.

We did a thing called "Let's

Talk Dirty" with Mark Stevens,

the big porno star on Channel J.

They're here at Studio 11 B,

and I'm going to be

talking to John Warzinski.

Did I say that right?

WOJTOWICZ:

No, no, no.

I shouldn't...

Wojtowicz.

John Wojtowicz.

I'm sorry, John.

OK. I'm going to call

you Dog from now on.

WOJTOWICZ:
OK now, with

the "Jeanne Parr" show,

Liz is telling me

how much she loves me

and she wants to get

back together with me,

but then when we did the

TV show with Mark Stevens,

she starts accusing me

of all kinds of stuff

and starts turning it around.

I talked to Liz a few weeks ago

about Dog robbing the bank

for Liz's sex change,

which I think is incredibly

amazing, right, don't you?

No, not really.

Well, why? Don't you think

it's incredible?

Because I don't think John

really robbed the bank for me.

I never have.

I really honestly believe

he was in debt to the mob

for unknown amount of

money for my wedding.

All you have to remember

is that I robbed the bank

to get Liz the sex change

even though I was against her

getting the sex change,

and that was the only

reason I robbed the bank.

Didn't you leave anything out?

Nope.

Give me a break.

I feel like I'm playing

ping-pong here.

I can't give you a break.

Never mind.

Go right to...

Oh! She's getting slick.

Come on, Liz, right?

It is incredible, isn't it?

If you had gotten caught,

what was the contingent plan?

What were you gonna

do when I came in

and kissed you in the

doorway of the bank?

The truth John.

Remember, we don't lie.

The truth, John.

Who? Who lies?

You do. Go ahead.

I very rarely lie.

OK, the truth is, if Liz wasn't

going on the plane with me

to get the sex change operation, I

would have blew her f***ing ass away.

You would have blown her away?

See, Mark, you didn't know us

during that one-year period

between the time we met and

the time after we got married

that he robbed the bank.

I mean, it's all right to say

you're in love with somebody

and it's all fine and good.

But he also put me

through a whole year

of getting letters

every day that said,

"You have 28 days to live,"

"You have 26 days to live,"

"you have 15 days to live"

because I left him.

The thing that led me into

the mental institution,

which everybody talks about, is the

fact that I got these threatening notes

all the way down to number one,

and I figured since it was my birthday

and everything else was fine,

I said, "Why don't

I just kill myself?

It would end all this,"

and that's just what I did.

I tried to kill myself.

And you think I really wanted

a person to rob a bank?

I got the shaft.

I might have got the sex change,

but I got the royal shaft.

I can't enjoy it.

MAN:
Dog was obsessional

with Liz, and Liz said,

"You know, I don't want

to be with him,

"but he's there all the time,

he like, tracks me down.

I don't know what to do."

I mean, they had this link,

you know, this symbiotic link.

And there was nothing she could do to

release her from this mock marriage.

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