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We're going to have

to push back publication.

There's no way we can release

in four days.

Fourteen pages in The Guardian,

twelve in The New York Times.

This is more coverage

than all the leaks

we have had, combined.

We are winning

an information war...

which goes beyond

any short-term alliance

we have with

the mainstream media...

and you want to throw it

all away because you fear...

that some U.S. Government

informant might come to harm?

These are human beings, Julian,

and their lives are at stake.

What about the lives

of the soldiers...

and the civilians

involved in these conflicts?

Death squads, unreported

civilian casualties,

countless incidents

of friendly fire.

This is information

the world needs to know.

So, the next time you find

yourself lecturing me

about this organization...

please try to remember

why I created it.

And why I hired you to help me.

Well, that's funny.

I don't remember you hiring me.

I don't recall

a contract or a salary.

But I guess I should have

known when I met Jay Lim.

There is no organization.

There's just you

and your ego...

and the lies you tell to get

whatever the f*** you want.

You know, it's incredible...

how much time you can spend

with a person...

and still have no idea

who they are.

You're suspended.

Effective immediately.

Those are

the most revealing docs.

Do whatever you can

to keep them off the site.

Okay, thank you, Marcel. Bye.

Rosenbach said the bulk

of the identifiable sources...

are in the threat assessments.

It's 14,000 documents.

But, if you hold those,

there are a lot

fewer names in the rest.

Yeah, I got it.

And remember,

don't tell Julian

that we were talking.

Are you seeing

the ridiculous crap

he's spouting on the chat?

Danny, he's completely

out of his mind.

And if he keeps doing this,

we're going to have to quit.

All of us.

Just take care

of the documents, okay?

Daniel, have you seen this?

He's on Twitter.

He says that you are FBI,

and that I'm CIA.

Look.

This is crazy.

Der Spiegel is begging

for more time.

The Times wants to go.

Holger, I've got Nick.

Ah, great. Five minutes?

- We have to go.

- Five more minutes.

Our top story this morning...

the White House,

blasting the release

of over 90,000

U.S. military records.

They tell a story

that some veterans

of the region know full well.

More civilian deaths

than are ever reported.

Unexplained American deaths,

questionable

battlefield tactics.

The leak has forced

the White House

to defend its Afghan strategy.

Open and transparent

government...

is something that

the President believes

is truly important...

but the stealing

of classified information

and its dissemination

is a crime.

The United States

strongly condemns...

the illegal disclosure

of classified information.

What's worse

for national security?

WikiLeaks or bad U.S. policy?

Following the release

of the Afghan war logs...

WikiLeaks announced

it is sitting

on over 250, 000

U.S. diplomatic cables...

and plans to release

them shortly.

I've got a source in Colombia

we're gonna have to extract.

Christ,

Putin's gonna go ballistic.

How many more sources

do we have to notify

in the Middle East?

We're still trying to reach

our contacts in Tehran.

Okay, good. Keep it up.

I just talked to Libya,

they have real concerns

about the ambassador.

We're pulling the ambassador.

All right,

everybody, listen up!

I need at least 10 names...

of high priority sources

who could be harmed...

if and when these cables

are put out.

If we can claim that Assange

has blood on his hands...

we can turn this thing around.

Hi.

Do you think the President

of Turkmenistan...

will be more upset that

I called him

a practiced liar...

or that I called him vain?

- I'm sure he's heard worse.

- Hmm.

"President Berdymukhammedov

does not like people

"smarter than him.

"Since he's not very bright,

"he's suspicious

of a lot of people."

Well, he's been around

for a long time.

I don't think he's worried

about the opinions

of a mid-level foreign attach

That's why I signed

Hillary's name to it.

I'll see if The Times

will hold it.

No, I've got bigger issues.

No, Sarah,

I am collecting cables

from the head

of every foreign desk.

Okay, you tell me...

You tell me, then,

what do I ignore?

This?

This destroys

the Sudanese peace talks,

this screws a source

in Amman...

The Times will redact

the names.

Yeah, but,

what about him, will he?

And don't you tell me

that your friend Keller's

got him under control.

He's bigger than The Times.

He can do whatever

the hell he wants.

Just like he did

with the war logs.

God.

Any word from Tarek?

He's named in at least

a half a dozen of these.

Let's bring him in.

So have you decided

about St. Harts?

It's a lung flight for a baby.

That's what a nanny's for.

You don't have to convince me.

- Hello?

- Doctor Haliseh?

Remember the trip

we once spoke of?

Gentlemen.

Welcome.

Please...

Tarek?

I left the estimates in the ear.

You need to go home.

She's cooking dinner.

Now! She needs to go now!

We need to pack.

Everything.

There are names, operations.

This leak puts

Americans' lives,

and our allies' lives at risk.

There is blood on their hands.

Pentagon officials

are saying today

that this has been

their fear all along.

That, if those names

were revealed,

those people would

become targets.

Mr. Assange

can say whatever he likes...

about the greater good

he thinks

he and his source are doing...

but they might already

have on their hands

the blood of some

young soldier...

or that of an Afghan family.

For more, we're joined here

in our New York studio

by Daniel Ellsberg.

In terms

of "blood on their hands"...

I'm sorry to say

a lot of actual blood

has been spilled...

as opposed to this

hypothetical blood.

This is

all speculative harm...

and what's not being talked

about is the actual harm...

and that's what has been

exposed through this leak.

So, I think that's important

for us to think about.

At least he kept part

of the bargain.

250,000 diplomatic cables,

right here.

Amazing.

So, the bugger came through.

Nick was right. It's huge.

It's a window into every

government on the planet.

Already I've got

a dozen page ones.

Gaddafi lying to his people,

Putin arming

Georgian separatists.

Damning assessments of leaders

in Egypt, Yemen, Tunisia.

Are you still focused

on yesterday's news?

On the high priest

of truth bragging

about a redaction process

that didn't exist?

I wouldn't call that

yesterday's news.

Sorry, wasn't he your messiah?

Yes. Yes.

Just like the rest of them.

Feet of clay.

So he's a liar,

a callous little zealot,

just like every

other oddball source.

Mmm.

Seventeen little keystrokes,

and anyone in the world

can read what he publishes.

And now we've given him

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